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God forbid you bring actual history, understanding, and nuance. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 week ago by WilliamA@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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Is agitprop even worth it? I got 3 dislikes and a comment saying "I FOUND ONE" as if I'm some pokemon in under 5 minutes. What could have been done better to persuade more and spark genuine discussion? I'm new to agitprop, so any advice helps especially if it's coming from experience.

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[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 week ago

You pretty much lost the minute you said the USSR was illegally & undemocratically dissolved.

It's true of course, but that doesn't matter in this context.

First it wasn't really relevant to the discussion and thus comes across as preaching rather than informing.

Second apologia for the USSR has been deliberately tied to pro-Russian sentiment which libs have been taught to disregard without second thought.

Third it reveals your illiberal perspective, which for liberals is a signal to ignore whatever you say going forward.

Any hope of discussion pretty much ended after that first paragraph. There are specific things that liberals have been conditioned to subconsciously reject regardless of evidence presented or argumentation used and you have to avoid using that charged language if you want to get through to them.

Remember: liberals are taught that the USSR was a Russian chauvinist dictatorship whose evil rivaled the Nazis. If you want to rehabilitate that image you have to work around that preconception slowly & analytically; don't just charge through like it's a brick wall and you're the Kool-Aid man.