Just the other day, someone argued with me that Trump’s accelerationism would somehow be beneficial to the left for recruitment, because people/libs are easier to be radicalized under Trump while they love to brunch under Democrats.

It's not wrong to say that this acceleration from the government creates new opportunities for leftist organizing. That's not saying Trump is good, it's just an assessment of the situation. And I see it borne out all the time, the interest in PSL has grown by an order of magnitude since his election. We have to deal with the ups and downs of where we're at right now.

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I reject the idea that 4 years of Biden would give the left “time to organize,” democrats are counter revolutionary and possible organizing subjects tune out out of necessity/go back to brunch once blue is back in office. 2020 had simultaneous crises and they were mollified by liberal cooptation. Families separated, kids in cages, police murder, genocide in Palestine, nobody flocked to those banners because Biden was in charge. Is this accelerationism? It seems like an evaluation of reality

[–] jack@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not even making a comparative Dems vs Reps claim and I'm certainly not saying we wanted Trump so that we could do accelerationism. I'm hust saying that under Trump, popular discontent is substantially heightened, classs consciousness is on the rise, and radical organizing is quickly getting bigger and stronger. Things are accelerating in both repression and resistance. Being prepared starts with having that understanding.

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah nobody here was arguing Trump would be better, just that it was an inevitability and an opportunity

[–] jack@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

And not a done deal, either! This is an opportunity, but it's a narrow one that the movement could totally fumble or that maybe never fully materializes. But the chance is there and we have to act on it. Moralizing about what might have been under Kamala, or maybe we could be more prepared, or whatever - irrelevant. We are Marxists. We work from the real material conditions that currently exist.