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JPMorgan's Jamie Dimon delivers a stern warning to remote workers::undefined

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[–] lightnegative@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Old guy still doesn't understand how anyone could be working if he can't physically see them working"

Fully remote is the way of the future, in tech anyway. Use the money you saved on not renting office space to fly teams to the same area for a week or so a few times a year, there's definite value in meeting, working together in person and going out for a beer afterwards. For short stints.

Otherwise, the lack of commute and the ability to focus uninterrupted for longer periods is massive advantage for remote work

[–] asteroidnova@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Fully remote is the way of the future, in tech anyway. Use the money you saved on not renting office space to fly teams to the same area for a week or so a few times a year, there’s definite value in meeting, working together in person and going out for a beer afterwards

But make it optional and don't penalize folks for not showing up. The last thing I want to do is meet up with my coworkers and go for drinks especially given the fact that I do not drink alcohol nor enjoy social outings in general.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fully remote is the way of the future, in tech anyway. Use the money you saved on not renting office space to fly teams to the same area for a week or so a few times a year, there’s definite value in meeting, working together in person and going out for a beer afterwards. For short stints.

Fully remote is one of the ways of the future. A more reasonable approch is a mixed way.

[–] AppaYipYip@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If by a "mixed way" you mean 1-2 days in office, that would never work for a lot of people for the reasons below.

  1. You have to commute those days.
  2. You have to find child care but it's not consistent so your possibly paying more per day for the few days vs. getting a good rate for weekly.
  3. You have to carry all your equipment with you. (I personally have to carry my laptop plus the equipment I support which takes like 2 trips from the car to my desk plus time to set everything up.)
  4. Not all of team comes in the same day/same location, so your still on virtual meetings anyway.

To be fair a lot of this is my personal experience and other companies may work differently but for me, I'm staying fully remote. Good companies/teams make it work. If your company/team can't work like there are other issues at fault.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If by a “mixed way” you mean 1-2 days in office, that would never work for a lot of people for the reasons below.

I was thinking more "when I need/want to go to the office" than a fixed schedule.

All your points are valid, but I can make counter-points for a full remote solution, if I want. One example is that for a full remote position you need to have an home office or, at least, a place where you can work without interference. Not everyone has it.

You have to carry all your equipment with you. (I personally have to carry my laptop plus the equipment I support which takes like 2 trips from the car to my desk plus time to set everything up.)

I suppose that depends on the work you do. Of course in some cases a "full remote" or a "full office" solution is better than a mixed approach. For example, I personally have not to carry anything going to the office since I have a work laptop at home and a desktop at the office. I understand I am been lucky btw.

Not all of team comes in the same day/same location, so your still on virtual meetings anyway.

That is just an organizational problem.

To be fair a lot of this is my personal experience and other companies may work differently but for me, I’m staying fully remote. Good companies/teams make it work. If your company/team can’t work like there are other issues at fault.

That's the point. Every way (full remote, full office, mixed and so on) are good for someone and bad for other.