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I feel like former socialists never believed in socialism that much (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 days ago by KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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For former socialists, there's one argument I see them use for why they are not socialist anymore.

That argument is that they felt guilty about wanting to push their ideology onto others and so they started believing in parliamentary politics again where every opinion is valuable. My dad who used to be an anarchist as a teenager used this reasoning, as well as one of my teachers.

But this argument doesn't make sense to me, because it makes politics into something which only revolves around opinions, while we communists and the capitalist class know it's about power.

I feel like these people never learned much about their ideology when they were socialists. I think I will never stop being a communist, I know too much.

Have you seen this reasoning yourself?

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[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago

I think there's many paths for this to happen, nearly all of them mentioned here in the thread. But I'll add one I haven't seen mentioned here, but definitely in real life. They haven't really stopped believing in something like a peoples ownership of the means of production, but they figure going from current system to that system is gonna be disruptive for a while and they have things they care about / take care of.

Not in the material sense of what if I lose my third truck but more in the sense of throwing a molotov at the cops probably sounds a lot more enticing as a 20 year old than as 35 year old with kids to take care of.