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...and that food has to come from somewhere. Someone has to work so you can eat.
Surprise, it comes out of the fucking ground! Of course if you want to eat something that is not native to your region it's a whole thing with exploitation and whatnot. I just find the disconnection with nature/life jarring
I think your observation is valid even though labor and planning are needed to produce enough and consistently enough to sustain a big population. Reconnection with nature, some autonomy in culture, I also think are necessary
Food doesn't simply erupt out of the ground on its own, not in quantities necessary to feed any kind of significant population. Farmers do in fact have to do labor to produce crops.
The bit about food not simply erupting from the ground on its own in quantities sufficient to feed a significant population goes double for cities where you have lots more people and lots less growing land.
food absolutely erupts out of the ground on its own lmao, the fuck do you think vegetables are?
you can literally go out into the wilderness and just find food in the ground, what the fuck are you on about
Not in quantities sufficient to feed any kind of significant population. You could at least get to the end of the first sentence before you reply.
Of course that was hyperbole. I am not saying that growing food is effortless or easy. I'm just saying that food is natural (duh), while coerced farmers aren't natural, but rather a product of capitalism allowing you to buy any kind of food known to man, fresh, in a huge supermarket, and throw it away if it is not sold. Or any another authoritarian system for that matter, it would just happen in different ways. As my other comments show, I'm talking about different scales. Cities provided an advantage not long ago in many ways - infrastructure, culture, economy, opportunities etc -, but as modern technology shortened distances, I feel less and less people can find a compelling reason to live surrounded by miles and miles of cement and smog. High-density and high-volume communities/housing are two different things.
You started with a rejection of "you have to work if you want to eat", my whole point was someone has to work if you want to eat, and if that someone isn't you they probably need some kind of incentive for why they are working so you can eat.