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Today she pulled me aside and said that she disagreed with what I had to say. I asked why and she said that she believed what defectors had wrote in their biographies (she didn't name any specific books). I didn't actually get to counter that (or respond to anything really) beyond the documentary (Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang) I linked in my email which she didn't watch apparently. She was respectful I guess. Should I respond with a critique of Escape from Camp 14 and In Order to Live or should I just brush it off?

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[–] LiberalSocialist@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Teachers are workers, too. They are some of the most overworked and underpaid workers in developed nations. So, teachers are good (as a class) and deserve our support.

While some teachers are assholes, most have too much shit going on to adequately delve into each topic they teach and engage with students. They have a set syllabus they have to follow that is dictated by the politicians (and capitalists). They can’t really afford to rock the boat.

Look at Knowing Better, who used to be a history teacher who peddled the same myths and bs as everyone else, because that is what is taught and that is what you’re forced to teach. It is only after he left the profession and got the time to actually delve deeply into American history that he learnt the truths that otherwise would remain hidden.

[–] robinn@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Me after learning teachers are workers: :walter-breakdown:

[–] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They are some of the most overworked and underpaid workers in developed nations

Respectfully, we're overworke, but this job makes 20k more than the canvassing and retail I did in college. We're only underpaid compared to other workers with masters' degrees.

You're on the money about garbage curriculum though.

That said, that shouldn't excuse us any more than cops should be excused for doing their jobs.

If you're Marxist about it, being a worker makes us powerful when we're fighting against our conditions as workers, not when we're laboring for the boss. Teaching is not progressive in the American school system.

[–] LiberalSocialist@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

I really don’t think you can compare teachers and cops. They are more like nurses IMO.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Teachers are workers, yes, but they are also PMCs, and tend to be libs. Although some can be left-libs, the process of becoming a teacher / the work environment itself makes it difficult for communists to be teachers in the USA. I am once again recommending the book Disciplined Minds by Jeff Schmidt regarding this subject.