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[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I see. I think auto gets overused a lot by people just being lazy about writing out the full type, but constexpr is good practice in my opinion. Never had a compiler issue with them, but then I don't think I've ever used a nested lambda either.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I really like C++ (I know, shoot me), and I think auto should be avoided at (almost) all costs.

One of the things I love about a language like C++ is that I can take one glance at the code and immediately know what types I'm working with. auto takes that away while adding almost no benefit outside of a little convenience while writing.

If I'm working with some very big template type that I don't want to write out, 99/100 times I'll just have a using somewhere to make it more concise. Hell, I'll have using vectord = std::vector<double> if I'm using a lot of them, because I think it makes the code more readable. Just don't throw auto at me.

Of course, the worst thing ever (which I've seen far too often) is the use of auto in examples in documentation. Fucking hell! I'm reading the docs because I don't know the library well! When you first bother to write examples, at least let me know the return type without needing to dig through your source code!

[–] ugo@feddit.it 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks, that was a good read :)

However, my impression is that he's largely using the existence of templates and polymorphism as arguments that "we don't really care about type". I disagree: A template is essentially a generic type description that says something about what types are acceptable. When working with something polymorphic, I'll prefer ParentClass&, to indicate what kind of interface I'm working with.

Sure, it can be very useful to hide exact type information in order to generalise the code, but I think that's a weak argument for hiding all type information by default, which is what auto does.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The problem is that lambdas with a capture ~~aren’t strongly typed~~ are uniquely typed, so you have to use decltype/auto. And if you pass such a lambda to a function you’ll have to use auto as well.

If you write a lambda with a capture that calls itself recursively you’ll have to pass it to itself as an auto argument as part of the call signature.

I think this article explains it better: https://artificial-mind.net/blog/2020/09/12/recursive-lambdas

Edit: fixed wrong terminology

[–] barubary@infosec.exchange 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is an entirely new way to misuse "strongly typed" that I was not aware of before. Amazing.

Thank you!

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

You’re welcome. Just don’t blame me when your brain starts cursing in foreign languages you don’t even know. ;)