Ukraine has the right to defense itself, unfortunately fighting a proxy war between Russia and NATO while being the meat grinder providing soldiers is not defending yourself, Ukraine would be far better off making peace in the first year of the war itself, the longer the war continues the more gains Russia makes, Ukraine gets weaker and loses negotiation leverage for the inevitable peace treaty and the US gets more leverage to demand "rare earth minerals", yes significant concessions will have to be made but I don't Ukraine is gonna march on a country 5x its size anytime soon.

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

After the reactionary take-over spearheaded by Nazis and Banderites who worship WW2 collaborators, the burning of communists/trade-unionists in Odessa and the genocide waged against Russian speakers in the East I personally could care less that Russia does whatever is necessary to stomp the threat of a potential NATO staging ground and Nazi state in Europe.

Agreed, though. Ukraine would have been better off. We know that the United States sabotaged those talks in Istanbul though.

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