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Liberals literally founded the United States and counted humans as "property."
Will it be fair to judge you by future standards 200 years from now? Slavery was widespread and only began declining after Britain banned the trans Atlantic slave trade in the 1800's.
"All men are created equal”?
Ideals are easier to have than live. But Jesus Christ the brutality... There were abolitionists alongside them.
Still. I'm glad the thread was posted. I don't want to debate. A conversation maybe.
The original draft included criticism of the slave trade. The founders didn't have a singular vision and those that owned slaves broadly speaking didn't consider all people equal. There are certain moves afoot that, if they come to fruition may make us look like monsters for keeping Apes in zoos, eating them as bushmeat etc one day in the future https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_ape_personhood
If we were evolved enough to breathairianism, I'm down. And I eat meat. I think when we realize how abundant resources really are and hoarding isn't a problem so we can equitably share, we could make real progress. Lady justice is depicted holding ⚖️, not weapons.
ETA: I'd appreciate addressing my other points. My other thoughts are, if people don't like gay or trans, women or people of color or other religions then don't be that. Don't like abortion, provide birth control and comprehensive sex ed etc.
But I'm going offline for a while. Thanks for addressing what you did.