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When did Charlie Kirk become a moderate? I think you have him confused with someone else.
Alex jones is hard right, nick fuentes is hard right, salty cracker is hard right, David duke is super hard right. Charlie was the moderate right, mitt romney was a centrist and also not really a Republican like that. See the difference. Times have changed and so has the political spectrum.
You're right, what was once considered a closeted klan member has become an open fascist. The window moved right. Just because he's a moderate nazi doesn't change a thing.
Having come from a family that was directly affected by the killings of the Nazi party in Germany I find your statement to be absolutely retarded.
Who would you say is the archetypal centre-right moderate?
David Brooks.
He hasn't publicly endorsed or stated that he voted for a Republican for President ever, He has however done so with Obama, Clinton, Biden & Harris. He's the proto-Jennifer Rubin
Scott jennings on cnn is pretty much that imo
Yeah he was so hard right bro, he said get married, have kids, get out and vote Republican, no man in women’s sports, Abortion bad…… that’s basic conservative bread and butter shit but hey who am i
also that the 2nd amendment is worth a the bi-weekly school shootings
the problem isn’t 2a its the fact that schools, churches and university’s are soft targets, pass a bill that puts out of work veterans at least two in each school armed with pistols and security system of cameras and the problem stops or at least has a solution in place for quick response. I’ve heard people on the right say they should ban transsexuals from owning guns do to some recent mad shooters being trans, i think that is a bad idea and infringes on their constitutional right. Their are solutions that don’t restore Americans to give up more rights than have already been taken from them since the bush era
it's a cliche at this point but "'No Way to Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens", with the slight adjustment of "no way to prevent this without regulating and limiting gun ownership"
Yeah i wouldn't call him a moderate, but the political cleansing vibe to it is still pretty disturbing.
there is no proof shooter isnt maga
trump shooter wasnt a lefty
guess what side has done numerous acts of violence since and including Jan 6
so far this has not even been close to a both sides are the same type issue
and meanwhile dear leader is still spouting stochastic terrorism but sure lets speculate instead of focusing on real present danger
This didn’t age well, bullets engraved with antifa messaging
lmao it always amazes me that anyone thinks antifa is some type of organization, and not sure how calling someone gay is included so dude reads more like a 4chan troll, also in case you didn’t know those are helldiver memes
his parents are conservative mormons in utah, I’ll wait to see when more is released but I’m guessing non voter or libertarian
I know for a fact they are not an organization, it’s an idea that groups of individuals form small groups and local militias with antifacist ideology anti capitalist as its core
his gma just confirmed the whole family is maga
he’s a nick fuentes fanboy
Nick Fuentes isn’t really Maga and Donald Trump kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago along with Kanye West if I’m not mistaken shortly after Kanye West made his antisemitic comments on the Alex Jones podcast
as much as fuentes fanboys hate kirk the maga overlap is real
I don’t like fuentes but do share his distrust of the isreali leadership, bit the incel thing, fkn lame as hell, guy has a micropenis probably
It's more about the celebratory atmosphere after the fact, and less about the evidence in individual cases that is either not available yet or is conflicting as to what ideology (if any), the violence was motivated by. I'd say the real present danger is that a noted and high profile political figure (but not a politician), was murdered (presumably) for his views. That's real, and not a what if.
what did you expect when he pushed messages of hate
if he was murdered by maga we’ve only been screaming about this since 2016
I expect people to be able to say things without being murdered. Killing is not an appropriate response.
stop trying to whitewash this
he didn’t just say ‘things’
he spewed inflammatory hate and lies justifying violence towards marginalized groups for the sake of personal profit
and again there is zero proof this was maga
so far this year it has been consistently white hard right extremists
Did he advocate for violence? Do you really think it's MAGA? Come on... but if it is then i will formally apologize to you. Also I'd be curious of the count for left wing versus right wing violence. I'd also be curious which events you consider applicable to that count.
yes he did in the snarky ‘no one will notice’ way all these fucktards do
and it was a repub that shot at trump so yea totally possible its a magat unhappy about his world falling apart
lots of stupid ‘betrayed’ red voters right now
Well check back when the dust settles, I guess. I know you would love to believe that its a disgruntled fan or something like that, but it's probably not.
honestly i don’t personally care either way, regardless of who killed him he wasn’t innocent
my point is fox news is already ramping up the stochastic terrorism again and we have zero idea who did it, this is the world he helped create for profit
we know who shot at trump and they just spun up conspiracy theories instead of address the actual issue of gun and political violence
he made fucking jokes about pelosi’s husbands attack but lord forbid anyone find the irony of him being shot after the things he’s said
remember empathy is bad and not mocking him is against his wishes
I'm not trying to defend anything Charlie Kirk said, but I don't believe he deserved to die because of it.
no one rational can ignore that he played a huge role in creating the environment that lead to his death regardless of who shot him
feel bad for the kids in the school shooting on the same day, which he thought was the price of the 2A, it was what he wanted
It's not what he wanted, come on, but yes he played a role in creating the environment for what happened to him. But that isn't justification for his death. Murdering him is still wrong.
i mean he might have wanted it for other people but it was for sure what he wanted
we have multiple talks of his around gun violence
I personally did not like it when people were making fun of Nancy Pelosi’s husband, I believe as conservatives we have to be better than that. However, I don’t like that. Nancy Pelosi is actively insider trading all the time as well as all of fucking Congress.
fuck pelosi we don’t like her either
point is republicans, even senators the president and news pundits are giant hypocrites
Question, have you ever seen any of his debates? Is easy to say message of hate but please cite evidence of this that is not based on “dude trust me” sources
have you? but don’t worry internet has plenty of his highlights atm
not everything he says is wrong but plenty enough of it is and most of it is self serving as fuck
obviously he thought he was immune from the consequences so rather ironic
I have seen his debates and he usually just tries to tie in biblical response to why Aniston is bad, why illegal immigration is bad and other bread and butter conservative parties that are pretty much run of the mill stuff. I think the real reason libs hate him is this.
the right keeps trying to ignore that trumps shooter was a republican
the political violence this year has been overwhelmingly from the right
He was registered unaffiliated and hadn't voted in the last two elections.
yes and what was he before that?
clearly a raging lefty lmao
HS friend says he was the only leftist in his family. Family says he talked about LW activism. He was a member of the DSA. He was active in multiple antifa discord servers, including one where he planned the shooting. Let me know when there's enough to call him non-Republican.
post sources all I’m seeing is his family is mormon maga
Here's the HS friend story, but the friend walked it back later in the updated guardian story. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4340082/posts
DSA is disinfo using similar looking person but it's not getting community noted at present.
The discord stuff is from the pressers, but discord are also disputing that the messages were on discord, though they've confirmed the account.
what a mess this right now
but the gyoper nick fuentes angle seems solid based on the helldivern / chan memes
He was a republican in the way a 5”1 white kid claims he’s a hood gangster rapper cz he has a black friend and can rhyme
how heavy are those goal posts cause we all know where fox news would be if we even had a hint of dem involved