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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net
 

I get the memes and all that, but am I wrong in thinking it's a tad more complex? In any context, I can't help but regret such loss of life. As I think about it, though, I guess we wrought all manner of havoc in the Middle East, and we didn't spare civilians, so why should we expect any different. All the horrific things we did there... I see clearly why it happened. I just can't see myself supporting such an action. If they flew planes first into government buildings (which I know they tried) or military bases I could understand better. I just can't in good conscience support either what we did there or what happened here. I also won't say the US didn't deserve it; we totally did, but was actually doing it the correct move? How is it entirely different from going out and shooting random finance bros or billionaires. Sure they deserve it, sure it'll make us feel better, but I don't think it'd bring about real change. It's the argument against adventurism. And it helped fast-track surveillance fascism here, though I don't blame them for that, that was our own ghoul-ass politicians and scared people.

I guess this could be a common sentiment, and people just like memeing, which is all right, I suppose, so long as it doesn't get you in prison for making an ill-advised joke.

EDIT: I guess I still have some pacifist brainworms. I keep wanting our "good guys" not to use such violence, when comparably it is a drop in the bucket of the violence used against them. Also, of course, the responsibility for what happened to the US is lies within themselves. I do regret the loss of life, but I need to remember to keep in mind the many many many more lives lost due to US imperialism. Thanks for the replies!

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[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the WTC was chosen because it's a much easier and more visible target than a government building, I know they tried to hit the Pentagon but I can't imagine it being that easy to hit with a plane (inshallah).

The meming is mainly due to all us who were alive on 9/11 and remember all the NEVER FORGET crap and the islamophobia, racism and warmongering that followed. There's also the hypocrisy of weeping endlessly over those 3000 people while the US killed millions in the ensuing wars.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They did hit the Pentagon. It was a direct hit.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I probably should've said ”hit and destroy or cause critical damage to the Pentagon”. Only one side of it took any damage at all iirc.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It pretty much just hit Rumsfelds big filing cabinet marked 'Evidence of our crimes' apparently.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I remember some guy on a forum I used to post on around 2002 went on constant screeds over ”fighting terrorism” because his brother died in the Pentagon. I always figured he was full of shit, but saying it was not a good idea in that climate.

Even if it was true, in retrospect, lol rip bozo, his brother was probably a ghoul.

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, almost nobody at the Pentagon was innocent, contrasted with the twin towers where there were some proletariat who got killed

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

There was a big whiteboard with the plan of how they were going to competently reconstruct post-war Iraq written on it that got blown up. A real sliding doors moment.