I get the memes and all that, but am I wrong in thinking it's a tad more complex? In any context, I can't help but regret such loss of life. As I think about it, though, I guess we wrought all manner of havoc in the Middle East, and we didn't spare civilians, so why should we expect any different. All the horrific things we did there... I see clearly why it happened. I just can't see myself supporting such an action. If they flew planes first into government buildings (which I know they tried) or military bases I could understand better. I just can't in good conscience support either what we did there or what happened here. I also won't say the US didn't deserve it; we totally did, but was actually doing it the correct move? How is it entirely different from going out and shooting random finance bros or billionaires. Sure they deserve it, sure it'll make us feel better, but I don't think it'd bring about real change. It's the argument against adventurism. And it helped fast-track surveillance fascism here, though I don't blame them for that, that was our own ghoul-ass politicians and scared people.
I guess this could be a common sentiment, and people just like memeing, which is all right, I suppose, so long as it doesn't get you in prison for making an ill-advised joke.
EDIT: I guess I still have some pacifist brainworms. I keep wanting our "good guys" not to use such violence, when comparably it is a drop in the bucket of the violence used against them. Also, of course, the responsibility for what happened to the US is lies within themselves. I do regret the loss of life, but I need to remember to keep in mind the many many many more lives lost due to US imperialism. Thanks for the replies!
I don't think anyone here supports 9/11 (well, some irony-poisoned person probably does), they just like mocking the sacred national mythology built up around it and say that the US was reaping what it sowed. Like, if someone is just prodding a wasp nest for no reason, I would think it's funny as shit if they act like a victim for getting stung, but that doesn't mean, in a scenario where the wasps didn't get agitated, that I'd think it was a good thing to do to covertly agitate the wasps to that they attack the person or something ridiculous like that.
No, I'm not comparing people to wasps, I'm just alluding to a common idiom.
The joke was mildly funny the first time, but the second time is just tiresome. It's a reactionary, anti-social sentiment and it shouldn't be humored "ironically". Would it be helpful for me to explain why 9/11 was a bad event?
9/11 will be remembered as the beginning of the end of the American empire. It was an attack against the heart of the most violent institutions In america - the pentagon and the financial vampires that the pentagon protects. The stated reasons for the attack were very specific and focused onthe empire's actions abroad.
I will never tire of dumb 9/11 humor because because of the decades of Americans' bloodlust that I've witnessed, and decades of reverential propaganda ive endured. Sorry it offends you, but its not reactionary to attack the symbols and narratives of the bourgeoisie
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This really depends on what you mean by "attack the symbol". If you mean rhetorically, then yeah, you'll see that I supported exactly that with mocking the national victimhood narrative, etc. If by "attack the symbol" you mean "do the terror attack" or "support doing the terror attack," which is not normally how I would interpret it but is the thing you started off saying ("supporting doing . . .", obviously), then yes, it is reactionary and obviously so. It slaughtered minimally hundreds of blue collar workers, from janitors to firefighters, and obviously the executives dying is no loss, but the companies overwhelmingly just got insurance payouts and kept on doing their thing, meanwhile the whole event was used as an effective causus belli to push the Patriot Act, the War on Terror, and so on.
The Weimar-era Reichstag was a shitty institution filled mainly with bad people (who weren't hurt), but setting it on fire only helped the Nazis. If we were around then, it would probably make sense to mock the victimhood narrative that instantly emerged around it, but that's different from saying that setting it on fire is a good thing.
Indeed. We both could be targeted by the regime for this conversation, and here you are trying to sus out whether or not i condemn Al Qaeda. For legal reasons, I condemn Hamas, Al Qaeda, and all leftist twitch streamers
AKA the imperial boomerang. AKA the beginning of the end of the American empire. My opinion doesn't matter, it just is what it is