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On finding a job. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 8 months ago by anaVal@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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I can't find a job.
Well I could but there doesn't seem to be any jobs that fit.
Or if there are I can't find them. (But I don't think so)

The biggest problem is that I live in estonia and it seems there really isn't a well-developed anarchist/socialist/syndicalist movement here. The IWW doesn't have a branch and searching online doesn't really yield any results (aside from a couple of socdem groups),

I don't know how to search for a job that isn't just doing menial labour for some company.

I would like to work for a global fully-remote anarchically managed tech syndicate. But I don't think those exist and I imagine starting one is incredibly difficult. (Well starting it wouldn’t be difficult, but finding people capable and willing to work for something like that, while getting enough income, is.)

At the end of the day the means dictate the ends. Looking for a job in a capitalist way is going to land you with a capitalist job. I need to look for a job in a anarchist/socialist/syndicalist way, but how do you do that in an environment where those ideas aren't widespread?

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[–] black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Actually, finding people who want to work on that sort of thing online is not hard. Worker cooperatives have better pay, better likelihood of success, and come with a cleaner conscience. People want that. Making it work legally is difficult: it's difficult enough to manage books and build a business within capitalist legal structures while maintining consensus-based organizing without having that be across many national jurisdictions.

Why not work a regular job doing menial labor? The pay is shit? OK, fight for it to be better alongside your comrades. Isn't that what the labor movement is all about? Idk, easy for me to say in a place with high minimum wage

[–] anaVal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago (5 children)

My main reason is ideological. Why should I waste my precious time working in a job that doesn't advance my goals of creating a freer society? while also making pennies for some shareholder at the top? on top of that I get bored of doing the same thing over and over again. I want my work to have more variance.

And I guess while being truly international is kinda difficult it seems that it's a lot easier within the EU and USA.

[–] redti@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is no individual solution. That cooperative of your dream will it be in the air out the planet earth in the eter of your imagination? Or will it be in the capitalist mode of production? In wich world do you live? What is the society who made you? You are a slave like or not. You'll stay a slave whatever under democratic rules or fascist one in a capitalist enterprise or in a coop. Stop dreaming. Read Marx.

[–] anaVal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

No thanks. I like my theory to be from the current century. You know the one where we have stuff like the internet, imminent climate disaster and the hindsight of the soviet regime.

Also starting a cooperative is no individual solution. It's a first step towards establishing a collective economy. Which could fuel the collective spirit and start a political movement.

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