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debatable if it's slop or theory, but probably comrades will soon meet these arguments in the wild, and not that one has to abandon all theoretical considerations over geopolitical realism of the 20th century.

although it's all rather useless, treatlerism stays undefeated whether one thinks stalin was correct or not, got money from cia or not, decided to become culture critic or not

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[–] dastanktal@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

I haven't finished reading this, but I thought y'all would be interested to know that Ross Wolfe is a graduate from the University of Chicago. You know, the known psyop, that does its absolute best to turn real Marxist theory into the bullshit they peddle in the west.

This is something Gabriel Rockhill actually talks about in one his interview is promoting the new translation from Losurdo, Western Marxism, how it rises and how it falls.

Edit:

Took a few days and was finally able to chew through it. Basically it boils down to "no international revolution in the west no communism".

It's also a total rejection of socialism in isolation. Which means he obviously doesn't support any already existing socialist states.

Based on my reading of the Foundations of Leninism, it seems that this author is twisting the words of Lenin to make it seem as if Lenin hadn't changed his theories of socialism in isolation and the need for an international revolution.

Both of these themes—the need for coordinated international proletarian revolution in the most advanced countries, and the reabsorption of state power by society—will be explicated further in the third part of this essay. Needless to say, Losurdo diverged sharply from what Marx, Engels, and Lenin had to say

I think a wonderful way to describe his beef with this is that if the west isn't leading the revolution, then in his mind it's not communism.

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought the University of Chicago was the one where all the neoclassical econ neoliberals (who make no attempt to appear Marxist) came from?

[–] dastanktal@hexbear.net 4 points 4 weeks ago

Both things in this case

[–] henryjwallis@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] dastanktal@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah Fallacy callouts only.

The herald of the those that lack the skill and knowledge to impeach an actual point.

More interesting, it can only be considered a fallacy if I'm using this as argument.

What you have engaged in is a classic example of a fallacy fallacy.

[–] henryjwallis@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if you really insist you weren't using it as an argument then you are just posioning the well because it's too difficult to read and refute the piece

[–] dastanktal@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

At the same time, context is important and Trotskyists are not exactly known for their historical materialism and their adherence to reality.

I'm reading the piece, however, it's also important to understand where the author comes from so that you can understand his point of view.

Do you dispute that the University of Chicago specifically focuses on Trotskyism as their form of Marxism?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Actually it's a fallacy to point out that my propaganda comes from the propaganda factory