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debatable if it's slop or theory, but probably comrades will soon meet these arguments in the wild, and not that one has to abandon all theoretical considerations over geopolitical realism of the 20th century.

although it's all rather useless, treatlerism stays undefeated whether one thinks stalin was correct or not, got money from cia or not, decided to become culture critic or not

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[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

but the tone of this is that of a defensive trot

It's a Bordigaist site so left-com (from western left)

[–] Kopfrkingl@hexbear.net 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Man I wish all communists could get together — the ones online of course, since in real life I've found this isn't much of a problem. The way the far right can coalesce — which is mainly because of their non-existent ideology — needs opposition in the form of a united communist front with minimal — I won't say without — infighting. It's easier in real life since the essence of our ideology is more or less identical and I'd say everyone is earnest in its pursual.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

All communists can get together, the problem is there are a lot of people who call themselves communists and truly are not

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

In defense of the people within popular tendencies (not the tendencies themselves) that I think you might call "not communist," there is also an issue of people being severely miseducated on what other people believe, such as people thinking that all so-called "Stalinists" uncritically support everything that Stalin said and believed and that these things included stabbing smol bean anarchists in the back in Spain and Makhnovchina for the sake of power. I believe this miseducation is the source of a lot of division and we have seen that intelligence agencies deliberately stoke such things.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's especially challenging with Stalin since, as materialists, we want to be able acknowledge the good and the bad, but most of the "bad" that we hear about are outright lies, historical revisionism, or things that can't be blamed on a single individual. It puts us in the position of starting the conversation by defending him from falsehoods, since the conversation always starts with falsehoods. As communists we need to be able to discuss the history and theoretical development in order to properly educate and theorize in the present moment, and Stalin is an important part of that process who, when erased, always leads back to inherently anti-communist education and theory

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 3 points 4 weeks ago

I have a really bad sense of rhetoric most of the time, so take it with a grain of salt, but I think at least with some audiences one way of approaching this is by explaining errors and misdeeds on Stalin's part that they aren't even aware of (or even just that they don't take as particularly bad but we do) to establish "I'm not arguing that Stalin did nothing wrong, I'm arguing that many of your specific accusations are at best exaggerated and in some cases just fictional".

[–] henryjwallis@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago

Why do you claim that "It's a Bordigist site"?