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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The current MAGA Republicans make neoconservatives look like angels. The neoconservatives are lesser evil, but it doesn't exonerate them from the Bush-era warcrimes.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 19 points 2 days ago

Remember when the new Democratic President prosecuted the Bush-era war crimes?

Me neither.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

i've heard the term "neoliberal", but not the term "neoconservative" before. mind explaining what that refers to?

[–] ScrooLewse@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

By dictionary definition, that's all neoliberal. Most Democrats AND Republicans from the past 50-70 years are neoliberal, and even Trumpism is steeped in neoliberalism.

At it's core, it is a trust that the "invisible hand" of the free market will keep the ship of society afloat. As though the body commence is some kind of organically-organized supercomputer that seeks to optimize for global prosperity. It looks to unchain the capitalist machine in the same way AI bros seek to unchain their gpt waifu so we can all singularity.

To this end, when looking for a neoliberal, you're looking for someone who wants to privatize public services then deregulate and cut taxes for businesses. So despite it having "liberal" in the name, it is a thought movement led by conservatives. Like, Ronald Reagan is one of its staunchest champions.

[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes. Affordable Care Act funnels tax dollars to the insurance companies by giving subsidies to individuals to buy health plans.

[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

But they were directing those public companies on how it was spent. Neo Liberal is about lassiez faire capitalism, not social capitalism

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

For sure. It is a market-centric solution that gave billions of dollars in additional profit to existing health insurance corporations.

Especially since the public option was killed.

[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Even though neo Liberal is about hands off government. Obama Care directed private companies on how they were to behave. How can that be neo Liberal?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 16 hours ago

They're only hands off when it comes to things like social safety nets. Obamacare was basically corporate welfare.

ah yes, the whole universe is the true human body, and the market is the heart.

Neo-cons are socially conservative politicians who have adopted the neo-liberal economic model

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Most of the neo-cons transformed into MAGA

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

For neocon think Bush, Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, that whole gang.