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[–] doo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If anything, ruZZia already lost and Ukraine already won this war simply because ruZZia could not (and will not. Yes Ukrainians are tired, but their army and the support from EU is much better that at the beginning, while ruZZian situation is the exact opposite) achieve any of its goals from 3 years ago.

So the question is not whether there's a win scenario for Ukraine, but how bad ruZZia will lose.

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is sophistry, in no way survival is winning the war. r*ssian partners are a lot more consistent and deliver more by large margin. They didn't even started mass conscription yet. European partners are inconsistent and slow, they fear and pay r*ssians, for fucks sake both Poland and Romania were attacked multiple times by shahed drones and they fear to even destroy them every time.

Ukraine is getting tired of winning so hard, 500+ long range drones last night, multiple attacks with ballistic and cruise missiles. Pavlograd and Zaporizzha and Kyiv were attacked with dozens of people dead.