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Skill issue - on the devs side.
A lot of pages even fail if you only disable 3rd-party scripts (my default setting on mobile).
I consider them broken, since the platform is to render a Document Object Model; scripting is secondary functionality and having no fallbacks is bad practice.
Imagine if that were a pdf/epub.
This is how you know they're extra lazy -- no "please enable javascript because we suck and have no noscript version".
people who don't know what graceful degradation is make me sad
It reminds me of flash when it first gained popularity.
“Please enable flash so you can see our unnecessary intro animation and flash-based interface” at, like, half of local restaurant websites
wild thing is that with modern css and local fonts (nerdfonts, etc), you can make a simple page with a modern grid and nested css without requiring a single third party library or js.
devs are just lazy.
Devs are lazy but also product people and design request stuff that even modern CSS cannot do
Have you ever built anything more complex with CSS and HTML5? It is a massive pain
if im building something complex im using an actual server side language not a javascript framework
You use both
*cost-efficient. At this point it's a race to the bottom.
and its not even the devs. its the higher ups forcing them to do shit that won't work.
Yep, burnout-rate increasing, companies favoring quantity over quality.
Personally, I love server-side rendering, I think it's the best way to ensure your content works the way YOU built it. However, offloading the processing to the client saves money, and makes sense if you're also planning on turning it into an electron app.
I feel it's better practice to use a DNS that blocks traffic for known telemetry and malware.
Personally, I used to blacklist all scripts and turn them on one at a time till I had the functionality I needed.
please never turn anything into an electron app
But they're not pdf/e-pub, they're live pages that support changing things in the DOM dynamically. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be mean but people not wanting scripting on their sites are a niche inside a niche, so in terms of prioritising fixing things that's a very small audience with a very small ROI if done they might require a huge rewrite. It's just not financially feasible for not much of a reason other than puritan ones.
More simple websites have some advantages like, less work to maintain, responsivity and accessibility by default.
Sure, what is already, that is. It starts already at choosing the frameworks.
All modern browsers have Javascript enabled by default. A good dev targets and tests for mainstream systems.