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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

If we're talking about a hard copy ID (passport, drivers license) that's one thing. A digital ID, and over the internet, is asking for trouble.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

That's the reason I wrote what I wrote. everyone only knows what they need to know. How do you think a third entity would identify you?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Easy:

  • companies have a vested interest in identifying you (ads, data brokers, etc)
  • governments have a vested interest in tracking you (local police, terrorism tracking, etc)

I don't trust the government and private interests to come to an agreement that somehow benefits citizens more than their combined interests.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not saying I'm for age verification. I'm just saying if it were for it, there'd be solutions.

What I wrote I did while being barely awake in five minutes. Sure it needs work. But there'd be ways to do it without a camera up your butt.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My point is that any solution here will be used for tracking, because that's in the interests of both regulators and regulated entities. It's not going to solve the original problem because kids are great at finding workarounds, and it will cause harm to those who follow the rules.

I also could devise a technical solution here that respects users' privacy and is effective, but once it's implemented, it will be changed to violate privacy. That's how these things work.

Sadly, I agree with everything you wrote.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I doubt the concept of anonymised data. Companies and governments have bad incentives to know who you are, and collect data from brokers to make correlations and educated guesses.

You should avoid everything then. Besides that, what has that got to do with the issue?

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

How do you think a third entity would identify you?

You may want to join us reading along in the privacy communities of the fediverse.

But long story shortened - third parties are very much identifying each of us in staggeringly novel and effective ways.

For example, depending on circumstances, third parties may not be sure which room in my home I am sitting in, right now, while being aware that I'm writing this. This shit has gotten deeply weird and invasive.

I'm not talking about fingerprinting.