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In this video, I discuss why some popular carnivore influencers have quit the carnivore diet.

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Summary

The video explores the reasons behind the creator’s decision to quit the strict carnivore diet after a year and a half, despite initially experiencing significant health benefits such as the resolution of autoimmune conditions, eczema, and asthma. The speaker outlines various health issues he and others encountered, including electrolyte imbalances, hormonal disruptions, and digestive challenges, and explains that these problems were not inherent to the carnivore diet itself but rather due to factors like insufficient calorie intake, improper meal structuring, and overconsumption of certain organ meats (especially liver). The video also highlights how being extremely lean and undereating fat and protein exacerbated symptoms such as cold intolerance, low energy, sleep disturbances, and hormonal imbalances. It emphasizes that many who "quit" carnivore are still consuming predominantly animal-based diets but have introduced carbs or dairy to overcome satiation and digestive issues. The speaker discusses the importance of fat adaptation, the role of insulin in electrolyte retention, and how adding carbs or dairy can resolve many problems related to undereating. Additionally, the video critiques the misinterpretation of lab results, especially regarding iron and thyroid health, and stresses that standard lab ranges may not reflect optimal health. Ultimately, the creator advocates for a meat-heavy diet as essential for human health but acknowledges the need for personalized adjustments to maintain balance and performance.

Highlights

  • 🔥 Eating strict carnivore resolved lifelong autoimmune issues but caused new health challenges over time.
  • ⚠️ Symptoms like muscle cramps, cold intolerance, and hormone imbalances often stemmed from insufficient calorie and electrolyte intake, not the diet itself.
  • 🥩 High consumption of liver led to potential vitamin A toxicity, impacting electrolyte balance and health.
  • 🍳 Undereating protein and fat and eating many small meals prevented adequate insulin spikes, causing electrolyte loss and symptoms.
  • 🥛 Adding dairy and fruit helped increase appetite, energy, and electrolyte balance, resolving many issues linked to strict carnivore.
  • ⏳ Fat adaptation is essential for optimal energy and performance on carnivore but requires weeks to months to develop fully.
  • 📊 Lab values must be interpreted in context; “normal” ranges are based on unhealthy populations, and slightly high ferritin may indicate good iron status on carnivore.

Key Insights

  • ⚖️ Caloric intake and body composition critically influence carnivore diet success: Extremely lean individuals like Paul experienced negative effects because they lacked sufficient energy reserves and were undereating, especially fats. This underscores that strict carnivore is not one-size-fits-all and requires tailoring to body needs and activity levels. Without enough calories, especially fats, the body will downregulate metabolism (e.g., lowering core temperature) to conserve energy, leading to cold intolerance and fatigue.

  • 💉 Insulin’s role extends beyond blood sugar regulation to electrolyte retention: Carnivore’s low carbohydrate intake results in lower insulin levels. However, protein intake also stimulates insulin secretion, which helps kidneys retain sodium and potassium. Small, frequent meals with insufficient protein prevent meaningful insulin spikes, causing electrolyte depletion and symptoms like muscle cramps and heart palpitations. Larger, less frequent protein-rich meals or increased protein intake could mitigate this issue.

  • 🥩 Excessive organ meat consumption can cause micronutrient imbalances: Liver is nutrient-dense but extremely high in vitamin A and copper. Vitamin A accumulates as it is fat soluble and can lead to toxicity, impairing liver and kidney function and disrupting electrolyte balance. This highlights the importance of moderating organ meat intake within carnivore diets to avoid adverse effects.

  • 🥛 Satiation from animal-based diets can lead to unintentional undereating: High protein and fat intakes trigger strong satiety hormones and provide abundant nutrients, causing many people to eat less without realizing it. This can be especially problematic for lean, active individuals who require higher energy intakes. Incorporating more palatable and calorie-dense animal foods like dairy or rotating different types of animal products (e.g., fatty fish, ground beef) can help increase overall intake.

  • Fat adaptation is a gradual process critical for endurance and strength: Athletes new to carnivore or low-carb diets often experience reduced performance initially due to depleted glycogen stores and lack of fat adaptation. Full adaptation can take months, during which the body learns to produce glycogen from fat efficiently. Prematurely quitting carnivore before this adaptation phase can lead to misattributed failure of the diet.

  • 🍓 Introducing carbohydrates strategically can improve appetite, electrolyte balance, and performance: Adding fruit or other carbs on a primarily carnivore diet can increase hunger through blood sugar fluctuations, stimulate insulin release, and improve electrolyte retention. This approach helps those struggling with energy, recovery, or digestive tolerance and may be necessary for some individuals to maintain optimal function.

  • 📈 Lab reference ranges do not always reflect optimal health, especially for those on specialized diets: Ferritin levels normal for the general population (often iron-deficient) may appear high on carnivore but actually indicate good iron stores from heme iron. Similarly, thyroid markers within “normal” ranges may still reflect suboptimal function in lean, active individuals. Understanding these nuances is essential for interpreting lab results meaningfully and avoiding unnecessary alarm.

Conclusion

The video provides a nuanced perspective on the carnivore diet, emphasizing that many issues people face are not due to the diet itself but to how it is implemented, individual physiology, and lifestyle factors. It advocates for personalized dietary adjustments such as increasing calorie intake, moderating organ meat consumption, spacing protein intake to optimize insulin and electrolyte retention, and introducing carbs or dairy when necessary. Fat adaptation is crucial for athletic performance on carnivore but requires patience. The creator ultimately supports a meat-based diet as foundational for health, warning against rigid adherence without considering individual needs and biochemical markers. This balanced analysis offers practical solutions for those struggling with strict carnivore and dispels myths that the diet inherently causes negative health outcomes.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

TLDW

  • Not enough fat consumption (for lean people)
  • Not enough protein in one meal to spike insulin
  • Too much liver
  • Not producing enough bile (slowly increase fat intake to increase bile production) to bulk on fat
  • Not enough electrolytes

Joe Rogan doesn't count, if he only tried it for a week, that isn't even starting... he never adapted

[–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Joe Rogan is quite possibly my least favourite person that sometimes (accidentally?) says things I agree with on the internet.