68
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 09 Sep 2023
68 points (100.0% liked)
askchapo
22768 readers
345 users here now
Ask Hexbear is the place to ask and answer ~~thought-provoking~~ questions.
Rules:
-
Posts must ask a question.
-
If the question asked is serious, answer seriously.
-
Questions where you want to learn more about socialism are allowed, but questions in bad faith are not.
-
Try !feedback@hexbear.net if you're having questions about regarding moderation, site policy, the site itself, development, volunteering or the mod team.
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
I thought we all were against great man history.
We are. Bernie running for president, and the galvanizing effect he had, were only possible by way of the material conditions of American capitalism in 2016-2020, and the social movements like Occupy, which preceded him.
That doesn't make him not important.
i agree that he was important, but important and "ruining the possibility of mass movements" is a huge jump.
Oh, that I agree with. I disagree with OP that Bernie specifically "Ruined the possibility of mass movements". We're just in a liberal malaise where they've all gone back to brunch, while the world is still burning.
That Said, petite bourgois liberals are hardly the core of many social movements. We ought to be looking to the colonized and oppressed people's in this country to take us anywhere.
agreed agreed, although i do think America specifically will be dragged kicking and screaming into the future.
Not in 2019 and early 2020, I was there I saw it happen EVERYONE went in for Bernie, he became the nexus of the American left, for over a year all conversations led back to him
Most of the lefties who went full communism in 2017 and 2018 drank that electoral seltzer, nobody wanted to hear any doomerism on the subject
Then March 2020 hit and suddenly blazing-eyed Lenins were everywhere
Where did that bring you?
spoiler
Back to me