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New European car registrations of Tesla vehicles totaled 8,837 in July, down 40% year-on-year, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers Association, or ACEA.

BYD recorded 13,503 new registrations in July, up 225% annually.

Elon Musk’s automaker faces a number of challenges in Europe, including intense ongoing competition and reputational damage to the brand.

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[–] Decq@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wait what?? I knew they overused terrible touch screen controls.. But you can't even connect your phone properly?

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

A lot of engineers are obsessed with touchscreen everything because sci-fi from the 70s to 90s was obsessed with that shit, so they became obsessed with it.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My understanding is that they also aim that way to reduce moving parts - since knobs, buttons, and switches are more likely to fail after 5000 uses. That, and they can update touchscreens to do whatever they want differently, like serve up ads.

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

5000 uses? Thats how often I click the left mouse button per day ar least. Most buttons are rated for millions of clicks.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 22 hours ago

My oldest car ever was from 1992. I bought it in 2015 and sold it in I think 2018 or 2019 or something. I do not remember there being a single failed button. There were a few knobs that had been literally torn off by someone. But not failed buttons.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's a cost thing. It's cheaper to get a shitty commodity touch screen from Alibaba and slap it in a cheap bezel, hook it up to a potato, and then just outsource the design and functionality to the code team in India. It's more expensive to actually do the industrial design to fit physical buttons and dials and source all the components required for the same. Engineers are obsessed with screens because their bosses are obsessed with cost.

It's the consumers, not the engineers, who go all starry-eyed and get so easily wowed over a crappy $12 touch panel with shit for pixel density and fuck-all for viewing angles, because they're the ones who have been bamboozled into believing this is all "futuristic." Most people aren't tech savvy enough to realize they're being sold cheap bullshit at a premium.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What does "properly" mean in this context? In my experience, every android auto -supporting car is way worse than Tesla.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well the way he framed it. As in you still need your phone in an holder. I figured you can't properly control your music from Tesla. Can't easily make calls, Bad support for other apps. I've never really experienced a Tesla properly, and I would way too ashamed to do so nowadays. So I don't really know the experience very well.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 22 hours ago

I mean, infotainment is the one thing where they're not TOO bad. I think you can just get native apps for Spotify and Apple Music. No Waze though.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

You don't need your phone anywhere, it's just not Android auto. You can make phone calls through your phone via voice, it can play music from your phone, but there's limited controls there to control the phone, or you can just use any of their built in music apps with full voice and touch screen controls. I think you can even do voice to text messages or have text messages read to you, but I'm not 100% sure on that one. There's something about text messages though. You can share a map location from your phone directly to the car.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The phone connects over Bluetooth. The car itself runs apps for some services, so you log in on the car for those apps to run them natively. If you personally don't use any of the services/apps it supports though, you're stuck with Bluetooth only. Full forward/back/skip/ etc supported but it's not android auto. I think all the models come with the built in phone charging cradle spot under the touch screen.