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[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 42 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (25 children)

Not sure I dig baking it into the code, that starts walking into the broken by design space. Feasibly the tankies developing Lemmy could do the same to any instance not painted the right shade of red.

I might propose instead a step in setup, or on demand, to select major instances to allow/deny federation from with a description of them. Impossible to keep a list of every new instance up to date, but catching the major hubs shouldn't be impossible.

Edit: For all those who replied along the lines of it being optional not a hard coded block, point noted. I should expect no less misleading a post from a pool of people prone to leaving out vital facts.

My understanding as it being an opt-out default defederation is still a bit grating since I tend to think of software as a neutral tool rather than promoting specific ideals, but it's far better than a fixed in state and does serve some purpose to shield new users from some of the most egregiously bad actors.

[–] walden@wetshav.ing 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I might propose instead a step in setup, or on demand, to select major instances to allow/deny federation from

This is exactly how it works. I started a PieFed instance and made the decision (during setup) to trim the defederation list down to none. Users can block on the account level.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hello,

Just to confirm, what did you exactly have to do to trim the defederation list during setup? Did you just use instance.tld/instances or did you do it differently?

FYI @jet@hackertalks.com

[–] walden@wetshav.ing 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly, I was presented with a text box pre-populated with the list of bad guys. I just selected them all with Ctrl-A and hit delete.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] walden@wetshav.ing 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm on my computer now, so I'll type out some more detail if you're interested. To reiterate, I'm just going off memory and it was two weeks ago so I could very well be making stuff up...

The pre-filled input box asked for each blocked instance to go on a new line, so:

lemmy.world  
lemmy.ml  
lemmygrad.ml  
hexbear.net  
lemmy.zip  
piefed.social  
etc...  

I deleted all of the defaults and that was it. I'll put a screenshot of the settings page that's available to admins below:

Federation options

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

Even better, thanks

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

One of the main reasons I dont self host anything from the fediverse is because I dont want to monitor for abusive material.

Seems like the defed list is mostly known sources of abusive imagery.

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