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How could this happen? (media.piefed.world)

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[–] Auth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So you are going to ignore all the examples you dont like and point to a small example of a not very successful island. There is far more capitalist countries doing better than Cuba. I'd rather 40k deaths from old age people not getting healthcare than have my government slaughter 10million civilians but whatever.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

40k even year, for 30 years equals?

And not even counting the death toll-free wars of imperialism, food shortage, etc etc.

Capitalism has kill more than 10 million civilians, by magnitude.

I see you also ignored all examples, except for one.

And Cuba... how well would they be faring had they NOT been under a trade embargo for 50 years now?

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

40k even year, for 30 years equals?

Stop with this dogshit point, its embarrassing and I know you can think of something better. 40k deaths each year for 30 years still wouldnt put it in the top 10 communist massacres.

Also you are comparing a random stat of healthcare deaths to government massacres. You dont want this comparison, communism has been responsible for the starvation of millions and wild guess but they werent providing healthcare either.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Stop with this dogshit point, its embarrassing and I know you can think of something better. 40k deaths each year for 30 years still wouldnt put it in the top 10 communist massacres.

I only picked a single segment of capitalism killing people. Want to go into the ecological damage and death tolls from that as well?

Also you are comparing a random stat of healthcare deaths to government massacres.

I thought we were talking about deaths caused by an economic system? Capitalism vs Communism, here?

I provided a single stat consisting of deaths caused by capitalism. We can break down more:

Deaths caused by imperialist conquests for resources, due to capitalism
Deaths cause by ecological damage caused by capitalism

There's more, if you like.

You dont want this comparison, communism has been responsible for the starvation of millions and wild guess but they werent providing healthcare either.

So, we're going to talk starvation deaths?

How many died in the past year in Palestine, due to capitalism, from starvation?

How many died world-wide, just from US capitalist policy, due to starvation?

How many genocides were committed by the US in just it's first 70 years, due to capitalism?

Capitalism is far from a bloodless system...

9 million this year alone, from just starvation, due to capitalism: https://philosophics.blog/2024/10/13/excess-deaths-attributable-to-capitalism/