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[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Was Adolf eichmann a murderer? He never pulled a trigger.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He never pulled a trigger.

He joined the SS in 1932 and was tasked with event security for political rallies which routinely became violent. And then he rose through the ranks of an organization dedicated to covert violence very quickly. So, I wouldn't bank on that.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My point is that he killed, whether he was holding a gun or a pen; he caused people to die on purpose. He is a mudderer. I don't give a shit if he ever pulled a trigger, and deserved much worse than the hanging he got. As do his modern counterparts.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

he caused people to die on purpose. He is a mudderer.

We can definitely talk about Social Murder as a phenomenon.

But I think it's a bit too cutesy by half to assert a man climbed his way up the ranks of the SS in the middle of an insurrection in order to lead its mass extermination division managed it without ever getting his hands dirty.

I don’t give a shit if he ever pulled a trigger

I think we're going to see folks who come out of the ICE recruitment of the Trump Two era who will also rise through the ranks and become mass murderers. I think we've already got guys like that - Ron DeSantis famously oversaw torture at Guantanamo Bay as attendant legal counsel - in positions of power.

They'll all be able to look you in the face with dead fucking eyes and say "Prove I did anything wrong". And I think quite a few liberals will nod and shrug and say "I guess the Rule of Law says we can't do anything now that all the folks who could contradict this claim are in an unmarked grave".

This is the wedge that lets these creeps crawl into power to begin with. Willful ignorance of the crimes of this country only serve to give sociopaths a ladder to climb.

And im saying they should all be voted for. And if they're vile enough, like desantis, any family who didnt disown tbem should be voted for.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The 'I joined bcs I needed an education' was the first excuse.
This is the follow up.
They have to rationalise it to themselves.
As if there's any reason to justify joining the worst and most prolific killing machine on the planet.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

To be fair it's not the worst killing machine. Its nit like top 50% and itvus the most expensive, but it usually gets a pretty good amount of killing done.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What are you talking about?
No country even comes close.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

For pure numbers killed, i think russia wins. For efficiency per body dropped... When was the last time the Americans fully, like, won a war? Because it wasnt in my or my parents' lifetime.

And they got their asses handed to them pretty badly by guys who didnt all have shoes a couple times since their last win.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Russia hasn't got a death count near the US.
The US has lost everything after WW2, and there they played a small role despite the Hollywood fantasy depictions.
(I forgot the heroic victory against Grenada)

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

russia hasn't

Oh im counting deaths on voth sides.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well they actually fought the nazis

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The americans did too! They just, y'know, put their leadershio in charge of everything post-war.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago

They only entered when it was certain the Soviets would win and get all of Europe.
The allieds together only fought about 15% of the nazis, the rest was on the eastern front.
They were there to save their nazi friends, help them escape or fight the Soviets.
And yes the americans, vultures as they are, surely put their people in charge.
And those people were nazis, fully rehabilitated .