I think the only form I’ve seen it in in the last year that wasn’t being used by people committing genocide is a friend with a necklace, and I feel like after a while the genocidal use really drowns out the necklaces.

I’ve seen the Star of David spray painted on too many bombed out homes and literally carved into human beings in a way indistinguishable from the swastika.

This article could’ve been written in 1935, “German tourists dismantle hillside Star of David, use stones to create Swastika” it’s just Jewish supremacists now instead of German supremacists.

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imo it doesn't matter how many more atrocities Israel commits bearing the Star of David. The global South will consider it a hate symbol, the west might finally catch up in a hundred years. Much like the swastika, it is a symbol of a religion claimed and tainted by fascist

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think there is a difference between the two, in that (as far as I know) the nazi usage of the swastika wasn't really connected to its usage in Hindu/Jain/Buddhist (and probably some others I'm forgetting) religion, whereas the star of david is being used as a hate symbol by a group that loudly proclaims to represent all of Judaism (and is largely recognized as doing so by the west). Imo that means it'll be a lot harder to reconcile the ongoing usage of the star of david in a post-Israel world.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

The nazis were into a bunch of occult and pagan shit to mix in with their hot takes on Christianity. One reason they chose the swastika was because they believed in a made-up mythology about how the original Aryan race was the origin of the human civilization and their symbol was the swastika, which was "stolen" by Buddhists, Hindus, and various other groups.

So while the nazis were disconnected from the religions that used it, they had their own religious "interpretation" of what it meant.

[–] charly4994@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago

I the comparison to the swastika is far more apt, it was and remains a religious symbol in many parts of the world, it's just that in the west a swastika is now permanently associated with hatred and genocide. You see media getting altered for a western release because the prominence of a swastika because a general audience won't see the religious symbol, but the symbol of a genocide. It's an inevitability at this rate.

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’ve been worried about this for a while, how long is it until the Star of David is viewed more as a hate symbol than a religious one?

I've been there since shortly after October 7.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

A post of mine from an earlier discussion of this:

I agree. My partner stopped wearing her star of david necklace. It took about a year post-oct 7th, but the decision was made after someone made a comment saying she was "so brave to wear that at a time like this". She decided to take it off due to the only comment she's ever received on that necklace implied that she was supportive of "israel".

My Palestinian parents also have a strong association of the star of david to israel, and how could they not? The flag is waved everywhere there, if someone beats you while waving the flag, burns your land and kills your livestock, I think it's fair to associate the symbol on that flag as a hate symbol. In their minds, the star of david is a symbol of ethnic supremacy.

[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

how long is it until the Star of David is viewed more as a hate symbol than a religious one?

Does this look like something that was done more out of

Religion
Hate

The ship has sailed.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago