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Hey all. I'd like to open an official discussion regarding the upturning of the prior Hexbear party line on an :israel-cool: emote proper with the unambiguous Zionist flag.

I want to preface this by saying this is not in a 'ceding the issue' way. Over the past year I've been trying to engage in self-crit w/rt the chauvinism I've internalized growing up in a Liberal Zionist household, and my personal viewpoint on it did a 180 some months back, so I want to reopen this discussion proper in my personal capacities as Self-Appointed Emote Czar.

The reason it's taken long enough beyond that is prior to July, I was essentially half-engaged with the site in order to finish out my degree. After that, it’s been mostly inertia of confirming with the admins and other /c/Judaism mods, as well as having to be rigorous about my job search personally giving me little free time to coordinate this.

I do not want to center myself in this conversation more than I inadvertently already have, so I will leave my own opinion on the issue as a comment rather than explaining further here.

The consensus we've roughly come to is to open up the discussion in an official manner for a day or so. After that, I'll weigh the discussion in an entirely vibes-based manner (sorry Dean Norris enjoyers) and we'll alter Hexbear party line on it accordingly.

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[–] teledildonics@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is the exact argument used by the judge who just recently created federal precedent to charge anti-zionist protestors with hate crimes, immediately escalating them to federal crimes. This precedent, and your argument here, will be used to fuck over activists across the country with trumped up federal crimes.

"The Star of David — emblazoned upon the Israeli flag — symbolizes the Jewish 
race,” the judge said, comparing attacks against the Star of David to using racial 
slurs against Black people, and dismissing the defense’s argument that such an 
offense could be “an objection to state policies.”

In future lawsuits alleging antisemitism stemming from anti-Israel activism, for 
example, plaintiffs will be able to cite the Sumrall lawsuit as evidence that there 
is a legal standard equating anti-Zionism with anti-Jewish discrimination. 
Mainen said the case would likely be “heavily cited” in the future.

https://archive.is/MTtAM

and if you want to attempt to nullify equivalencies by arguing scope and context you can make that argument, but its undeniable that this stance is at the very least normalizing rhetoric that will be used to fuck over anti-zionist activists, and for no good reason besides "optics"