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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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[–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, someone gives you a bribe of 21 £ and you are ready to increase your emissions hundredfold for such a paltry bribe? Seriously? With this price difference there should be absolutely nothing unclear about the choice!

To be clear I didn't tell you what I do. I said what most people will do. But in this case, yes I'm taking the more convenient and cheap option. I don't see why you want to demonize normal people when the rich bois are tearing the planet up, and I don't just mean with their travel. It's ridiculous that the normal people are expected to save the environment when it's a losing battle against the people effectively running the world.

It's a bit funny that you're telling that "I’m live smack in the middle of Europe so it’s a bit limiting" to a Finn. Look at the map. Every time I want to go to Central Europe, I need to first take a train to Turku for two hours, then board a ship, sleep on that ship, make haste to the 7:24 train in Stockholm, take that to Copenhagen (and currently there's an extra change in Malmö), then take a train from Copenhagen to Hamburg. I've left Helsinki the previous day at 17:25 and now it's the evening of my second travel day and I'm still only about as close to almost any possible destination than your home is.

You broke quoting here. In any case, I just meant that from here there's only one way into mainland europe, via eurostar. There's no rail competition and no other option other than ferry or air.

The pricing of car vs public transportation in Britain surprises me! Over here in Helsinki the cost of having and using a car is about 300 € per month.

What are the causes of those costs? Our car is already paid off, so no more finance. The annual excise duty is free on it (historically it was low emission for the time, and this somehow carries over, it works weird here, apparently next year it will be like £100 or so for the year though). Insurance probably works out to around £35-£40 per month (we're not young any more and it's not a sporty car). MOT, Service etc. £300 all in for the year most years. Actually I have an extra one I still need to book which is like £600. But it's every 6 years or something like that. So not really to be factored in. That's less than €100 per month not including fuel. But crucially, I do not live in a city. So the car is needed anyway. So I have to pay all this. So really the only thing to factor in is the cost of the fuel, and convenience of driving/not driving.

But at the same time, something like 99.99 % of planes' emissions come from the planes used by Joe Average for their holiday trips. I would prefer putting effort into cutting four fifths of those flights away over stopping the private plane flights, because my effort is more efficiently used when it reduces the emissions by 80 % than when it reduces them by 0.01 %. Even if that 0.01 % means that one person is causing as much emissions as tens of thousands of other people together. It's about us staying alive.

This is nonsense (sorry!). I'll say why. The 1% (and frankly probably the top 5%) aren't only leading the way in destroying the planet with their travel options. They're ruining it in every possible way. AI is leading the way in wasting water and energy which is for certain doing untold damage to our environment, and it will only get worse. Just as some countries are getting into the position of being able to produce the majority of energy from renewables, up come the tech-bros with a new way to ensure we need more energy from more, let's say traditional sources.

We cannot win against these people. They don't care, they won't be convinced to care and anything we do is made moot by their overall actions.

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

We cannot win against these people. They don’t care, they won’t be convinced to care and anything we do is made moot by their overall actions.

We absolutely can win against these people. It's our choice to buy their products. If people stopped just saying "the rich should do this, because they are the ones to blame", and actually start thinking who they buy from, the problem with rich assholes would disappear. Our apathy must end, and it never will end if we just go "it's the rich, what can I do?"

It's a bit like in the Russia: "It's the politicians, what can I do?", whereas elsewhere people do care about politics and things are much better than in the Russia. You won't have agency if you volunteer to give it away.

We are the majority. It's our planet. We can fix the shit very fast whenever we just get our heads off our asses. It infuriates me when I see people merrily buying Nestlé products, for example. WHY do they do it? Are they idiots or what?