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There's no one left to elect we would be happy with.
The NDP is an absolute mess.
Quote true but at least they would not be passing all these draconian laws taking all our rights away.
Of course, but they would never be elected. I would 100% vote for NDP if they had a glimmer of chance, they did so bad their party almost disappeared.
It was a vote against the conservatives, who would cause direct harm to our independence and marginalized communities.
What we have here is a different kind of evil. Neither evils are acceptable, but it is a quantifiably lesser evil. We, as the people, have to twist their arms to make them do our bidding.
That is how I voted hoping liberals might be less evil. I just wonder now if there is any differences between these 2 evils anymore.
You had a choice between Shit and Shit Light. Giant douche and a Turd Sandwich.
I mean it beats the alternative down south. Not sure those folks are going to really have an opportunity to have a choice anymore, the way events are unfolding.
Yup, just worried the gap will close and not in the right direction.
That's just stupid. If everybody simply thinks that, of course it'll never happen. We have to change this mentality.
Also, I honestly think a minority conservative government with a strong NDP with whom the Liberals would've had to work with would've been a better outcome than this.
We need to get rid of FPTP, which the liberals promised to do years ago.
The NDP might get rid of FPTP, but we were not guaranteed a strong NDP this election, so we may have simply ended up with a CON / LIB government had we voted for NDP in greater numbers.
We should chat about this over Matrix if you're willing :) I think both viewpoints are valid, it's really just a question of risk to reward.
Um.....I hate to be the person to tell you, on the last paragraph...so I mean the last four years..the Liberals and NDP...yeah. And that didn't go so hot.
NDP is an absolute train wreck, and has been for quite some time save for some really tiny glimmers of hope here and there. As much as I dislike the current landscape, and as much as I don't feel represented, I'm quite sure the NDP wasn't the answer either.
Train wreck?
They were the 3rd party in a minority Liberal government with the Cons as official opposition. And they STILL managed to pass a few of their bills that improved the quality of life of middle class Canadians. That's a win in my book. Unfortunately the Libs took credit for what they did.
But people also forget the dynamic of a minority gouvernent and how they have to make compromises between each other. And so the NDP got shit on for essentially working with the Libs. But how else would they have gotten anything passed? They made made compromises on both sides, but somehow the NDP got the blame.
On the last part, that's how minority governments work. The NDP were just puppets, used for their votes, and nothing more. Sure they were made to feel like the popular kid, but you are right, they took the fall on anything unpopular. They maybe even got a few things done, but did they really? That pharmacy care coverage thing for example, it's been such a shoddy implementation and some of the provinces are ignoring it. It's almost like it was designed not to work...
Meanwhile the Liberals got almost four solid years of gears, thanks to the Dippers.
They would still have been better than wherever the fuck we have right now. They wouldn't have voted to force the return to work of the Air Canada employees for one.
They would also have put pressure on provincial governments to improve public healthcare services instead of letting them fuck over the system to push for private services. Etc.
They would've been so much better. Even if they are a mess.
...how would they have won is my question.
There was near 0% probability of them winning, and almost 50% probability of the cons winning.
Well if the left in this country could stop nitpicking and waiting for the perfect candidate / party to show up and instead give them a chance for once...