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[–] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 36 points 3 days ago (5 children)

It's cute and all but... I really hate that arguement. If it wasn't natural, it wouldn't make it any less moral. We don't need to play by their rhetorical rules. I know that this is just a cute thing, but I see this kind of things all the time and I feel quite strongly about it. So what if I wasn't born this way? So what if it's not natural? Does it somehow make things worse? Or is just an excuse to justify hatred of something that just grosses the 'phobes out?... y'know?

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course it is a dumb argument, but it is to refute the even dumber argument that somehow homosexuality isn't natural.

My point is that we shouldn't even entertain the question in the first place. It doesn't matter if it's natural or not. If it was unnatural, it wouldn't make it any less moral or okay.

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, when arguing with anyone about things not being natural, point out the car they drive, the processed food they cook, the job they work: all very unnatural things that people "choose" to do.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah but cars don't go to hell when they die, and they really just care about gay peoples' souls! They swear!

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Glasses are not natural, pacemakers are not natural, cars are not natural.

Anyone who uses "not natural" as an argument while not living in a brush hut and cooking over a woodfire is just a hypocrite

[–] Regdok@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We're the only species that can make our own fires. So unless you stumble upon a fire that has started because of a lightning strike or something, cooking over a fire is pretty unnatural. Then again we are part of nature, so anything we do is natural 🤷‍♂️

[–] Mandrilleren@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

I've been saying this for years. It doesn't matter if you choose to be gay or not. It doesn't matter how many biological sexes there are. People should do what ever the fuck they want with their own bodies and personalities.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 12 points 3 days ago

You know what else isn't natural? Clothes, houses, cars, glasses, phones...

It's just a dumb argument to begin with, and it's not even correct. Par for the course for conservatives.