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Ah, I did the exact same about a week ago. To be fair, I installed Kinoite on a second laptop, because I really need my working setup for the next couple of weeks. So I am not forced to use the Kinoite.
The thing that mostly drives me back to Arch, ist that I dont really understand the different appoaches of flatpak, toolbox and the package layering, or more their specific pros and cons and when I want/have to use what, depending also on my threat model.
I even struggled to get my Thunderbird working with my old config, because it wouldn't recognize my
.thunderbirdin/var/apps/net.thunderbird.Thunderbird/...Although Fedora has a quite good documentation, which I read with joy (which is not usual) I feel that I am missing some graphical depiction, or something :D
I think the last 2 days I didn't touch this, because I was thinking about writing a lemmy post, with the following:
Thanks for your post, it came just at the right time :D
I tried bazzite, which is very close to kinoite, as Fedora itself had a great out of box experience, even on laptops.
Whilst there was a way to get most setups, apps and configs working it was clear I would eventually run into a piece of software that the effort to get it working was not worth it. Some software and development tools are not (yet) designed and maintained to easily work in an immutable environment.
My biggest gripe was that any interaction with os-tree meant that updates now started to take a really long time building the image with high CPU/power usage. I wasn't ditching Windows to go back to a world of unnecessarily long updates.
For some, I can see the immutable can work well if they want an Android like experience and can accept the software catalog available. It wasn't the right model for me, as I expected my machine to do more than point and click app install. I would be curious how your typical arch user would find it.
I haven't yet run into any piece of software that's fundamentally incompatible with the immutable model thanks to distrobox. This also means I don't have any packages layered, so updates are very quick.