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[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

cia is incompetent is new

Lol no. They woukd drug each other with lsd while on assignment through the whole later half of the cold war. Which, based, very cool, but not the best for winning cold wars.

most brutal

Do we include their proxies and 'school of the americas' grads as theirs? Because some of them also liked the helicopter trick. And worse things.

secured americans against

Sure thing sen. Mcarthy.

Really though. They said that's what they were doing. But they're kind of professional liars.

often messy about it

Fire is often thought of as warm

wanted to be a spy as a kid

Sure, before you learn what it really is. Try being a labor organizer; all the danger and intrigue, less language requirement and pay, plus it's easy on the conscience.

They were always streaked with incompetent shit heads. There's huge swathes of culture they just cant get people into, because they can't hire anyone from those cultures, and to work there your ability to understand shit has to wear serious horse blinders.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I suggest we also collectively recall CIA can be both, given it's a pretty big institution. It's also been an evil fucker, presuming commercial interests based in the US count as US interests, even when those companies have become large multi-national corporations who actively avoid paying taxes.

I agree that it's gauche that surveillance companies will pass sufficiently saucy private pictures to their colleagues for a gander (a tradition since WWII that is still carried on in NSA deep-packet scans of internet communications. (That includes sext exchanges between teenage lovers.) Playing around with LSD (on each other, as a practical joke) sounds like it falls more into this category, which, I'll concede, is unprofessional especially for a department that has to sometimes engage in unethical action for sake of US national security, but that's different than incompetent

If I was going to be critical of them, it would be their propensity for assassinations (botched ones on occasion) when there were alternatives, abandoning liberation forces they had sworn to support and supply and putting down developing democratic regimes in favor of US-allied dictators. Or even that they fueled their budget by supporting and participating in major drug trafficking syndicates, but these things are not incompetent, they're immoral.

CIA's strength (in the 20th century, at least, was SIGINT, including codebreaking, and analysis (that is, developing accurate dossiers based on limited or scattered data), and CIA did a whole lot more of that than they did killing VIPs and supporting revolutionary force.

As a young adult, I realized being a field operative was dangerous, and besides I was better at research and analysis, which I wasn't imagining at all as a kid. Then by the time I understood the more gruesome parts of CIA history, George W. Bush was in office and they were torturing folks.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

different than incompetent

I guarantee, unless you're a mavhinery operator, your job is not effected as much by lsd as a professional liar/abuser.

they were doing torture in the bush admin

Do you mean bush2? Because, like... What do you call what they did to gary webb?

analysis, not down with torture

Hey, you know who doesnt have to do any torture? Labor organizers!