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Had a beer with a friend this weekend who works in car rentals. Says numbers are way down. Auto manufacturers don't want to sell cars to rental fleets because they're already having trouble moving inventory to new buyers and don't want a flood of late model second hand cars.

Clean energy, one of the few growth sectors in the US, was unceremoniously shot as part of BBB. They're cutting huge chunks from the government.

Inflation looks like shit. 12 pack of coke is 10 fucking dollars (who cares I'll keep drinking that garbage). My household has certainly pulled back as have many others. And tariffs haven't started to bite yet.

Housing markets are frozen in the south. saw a piece out there this morning that AI capital investment contributed more to GDP than consumer spending.

BLS numbers were so bad Trump shot the messenger. This is only the beginning as well, three and a half more years to go. And then we get Buttigieg I guess? There's no way out.

What are you folks seeing out there? Lets gather up our anecdata

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[โ€“] InappropriateEmote@hexbear.net 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Death spiral which will probably end in war with Russia.

You think so? How do you see such a thing coming to be? As much as the UK state is frothing with hatred for Russia, it takes two to tango and Russia has no interest in or designs on the UK (despite what Western war mongers would have you believe about Voldomort-Putler drooling in anticipation to conquer all of Europe). The UK fighting a hot war with Russia, such as by entering the Ukraine conflict as a full on combatant state, would mean the whole of NATO would be dragged into fighting a hot war with Russia which in turn means nothing short of WWIII with a high chance of nukes flying. The US (de facto supreme leader of NATO) won't allow that.

[โ€“] revolut1917@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago

Putting British troops on the ground in Ukraine once the Ukrainian state truly begins to disintegrate and there's a need for a backstop force to be deployed. I reckon the capacity of both sides to avoid direct strikes on one another's territory would hold up, as it has so far even with western missiles and tanks being deployed inside Kursk. I'm thinking UK troops present in a "strictly defensive" or "advisory" capacity such as being stationed along the Belarusian border or along inactive sections of the front, while the Russians continue to avoid strikes outside of Ukraine because as you say there's no interest there in actually hitting the rest of Europe. There's no reason that NATO would involve itself if Ukraine wasn't a NATO state (no legal basis for it), and US unwillingness to back such a move would give enough diplomatic leeway for both sides to say that no fundamental red lines had been crossed.

Of course it would still only be a prelude to a greater escalation, but that seems inevitable anyway if and when Ukraine collapses, and I think there could be a few years of European states putting troops on the ground inside Ukraine to some degree to forestall the next phase of conflict. If Ukraine does just collapse then you can be sure that there will be conscription and a much larger deployment to NATO's eastern border anyway.