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Yes, I know. My point is that that's a load of bullshit, as demonstrated by the actual countries that claimed to inherit ML ideology.
[edit: To be clear: maybe one could argue that the USSR and China aren't/weren't "true communism", and that true communism would be anti-imperial. My experience on Lemmy has been that people on the tanky instances tend to reject that argument, preferring to praise them as maybe imperfect but fundamentally very good. I hinted at this by referring to "actual existing communist states" in my previous comment, by way of analogy to the term 'AES' I know tankies like to use. But unless someone is willing to acknowledge explicitly that the USSR and China are just as bad when it comes to imperialism as many liberal western democracies, and put forward a claim that "true communism" wouldn't do that (and therefore that the USSR and China have never been truly communist), their arguments are obviously a load of bunk.]
No, I'm pointing that imperialism exists in capitalism, communism, and even in fundamentally incomparable societies. That imperialism is effectively on an entire separate axis from communism-capitalism, if it can even be said to be on the same graph. I feel I've been very clear about this, and your continued refusal to understand it strikes me as trolling. Unless you can come to the table and discuss in an intelligent and civilised manner, I'm ending it here.