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Yeah, I remember having multiple conversations with other STEM bros about this, even back in the first Trump term. My argument was always that I should care much more about American software spying on me because they directly give that data to the US government, and the US government is the one that can arrest me, send goons to my house, can shut my bank account, etc. What is the Chinese government going to do to me with the info? And they just got really mad but couldn't refute me.
I am going full power on mine. We talk about how there were no wmd, how the government lies. Then I slowly hit him with "so, anything the government says is probably a lie right" then I hit them about the anti Chinese propaganda. Just watching YouTube videos of the DPRK being chill.
Chuds believe that Chinese police operate on foreign territory. It's a lie, all the consulates do is provide avenues to get legal services for anything immigrants need done back in China.
If they belive the Chinese police have the organizational force to infiltrate US territory extrajudicially operate then the only rational choice is to defect