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cross-posted from: https://reddthat.com/post/46807163
Since this post posted in /c/womensstuff, a community that prohibits male participation, showed up on the front page of All I'm cross-posting it to a space where men can chime in and answer/discuss it freely.
Nope, it’s pretty easy to navigate work and life in general while actively not being a shit head.
I’ve unfortunately been a part of workplaces where people have complained about this type of thing. Typically it’s because they weren’t allowed to make demeaning jokes targeted at a specific class/race/gender/etc.
For whatever reason there's a subset of men that genuinely believe you can bully a woman into having sex with you. It's not exclusive to any generation either. And they're fuckin mad cuz they genuinely think they're being singled out and that this is the strategy actually works for other men.
As men I think it’s our job to disabuse those people of that notion. Using compassion first, but then mockery and whatever else is at hand.
Unfortunately in a lot of situations, they're right. It's called rape, even if done just with words. We need to beat those words out of those men.
Don't downplay the severity of actual rape by comparing it to insults please
That's not what I was doing. I'm saying using your words to pressure or coerce a woman into sex is also rape.
It still seems unwise to conflate those two things
Why?
You're now making a claim that goes against the concensus, so it would be important for you to tell also why you are making such a claim.
Physical rape is a much more severe crime, and lumping in people who are pressured into consenting as being victims of the same crime cheapens the meaning of it and means consent can no longer be trusted. Coersion is also vague enough that there would be significant issues trying to determine the legal line between convincing and coersion.