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i absolutely hate how the modern web just fails to load if one has javascript turned off. i, as a user, should be able to switch off javascript and have the site work exactly as it does with javascript turned on. it's not a hard concept, people.

but you ask candidates to explain "graceful degradation" and they'll sit and look at you with a blank stare.

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[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (21 children)

I, as a user, should be able to switch off javascript and have the site work exactly as it does with javascript turned on.

I mean… many websites rely on JavaScript, so it's kind of obvious that they don't work without it. If it would work without JS in the first place, the website wouldn't need to embed any JS code.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 8 points 14 hours ago (10 children)

Most websites out there could work fine without JavaScript. They rely on it because they can't be bothered to be better.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (3 children)
[–] ackthxbye@feddit.org 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

How about serving a proper HTML that contains the data they want to display? Instead of an empty page that tries to load the data via JavaScript.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 hour ago

They could just add a text box that says please enable JavaScript.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I miss when JS was just a silly thing you could use to add trails to the mouse cursor to impress anyone who stumbled onto your geocities page

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Glossary/Graceful_degradation

But honestly, all i ask is that buttons still work, forms get sent, if you use a more basic browser.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 hour ago

It is a lot simpler to just require JavaScript. It is widely supported and is default enabled on all platforms and browsers.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

When I ask a server for a page, it should give me content, not a shitty script and a note that says "here, you do it."

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

That isn't how it works

You are viewing a product

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Sorry about your stroke

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