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“I say two things to Europe. Stop the windmills. You’re ruining your countries. I really mean it, it’s so sad. You fly over and you see these windmills all over the place, ruining your beautiful fields and valleys and killing your birds,” he said.

“On immigration, you better get your act together,” he said. “You’re not going to have Europe anymore.”

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[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 10 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

There's so much to say. He's wrong (although a reminder that open borders lower wages), and it's not his place to say anyway. "You're not going to have Europe anymore" is a bit absurd since he himself is destroying America.

But all that aside, is he seriously gonna say the Netherlands is being ruined by windmills.

[–] appropriateghost@lemmy.ml 10 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

open borders does not lower wages when you consider the whole imperialist dynamic of wealth transfer that has forced migrants to find work elsewhere. Furthermore wages get lowered because of the capitalist profit motive.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 0 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (4 children)

You're right. Strictly speaking it's high birth rates that affect wages, to different degrees on the national and international level. The already occurring global decline in birth rates is a far better solution than closed borders which would just lead to jobs being offshored.

[–] appropriateghost@lemmy.ml 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I get what you're saying but I don't think it's higher birth rates either. This falls into a neoMalthusian trap that assumes that we don't have enough resources when it's the privatization of goods and services that makes production and access to goods stagnant and inefficient.

The implication of saying it's birth rates will shift the blame on those who have children, and those are historically poorer people in rural areas/less affluent communities/the global south.

Besides, if you look at consumption per capita it is the richer areas and less populated areas in the world that are using the most energy, polluting the most, and consuming the most.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm talking specifically about jobs. The less workers we have, the more workers get paid.

[–] Ragnor@feddit.dk 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

And the less work gets done, so the less money comes back to the country. The cost of your produce goes up when the wages go up, so it becomes harder to compete with competitors from other nations. You risk your businesses defaulting, and the workers losing their jobs so the wages drop once more.

It is not that simple.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

As I said, when you factor in that other countries will have more people it doesn't work out. If the entire world disappeared except Germany, then necromancy would lower wages.

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