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ICE agents told a teenage US citizen: ‘You’ve got no rights.’ He secretly recorded them.
(www.theguardian.com)
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They never said to start breaking the law. They said people should start defending themselves, which is legal.
Yeah, I read it as "if I'm threatened, I'll respond in kind. You should do the same." Not "go out and murder cops right now."
Responding in kind would be shooting at cops that are about to shoot you. Here we're talking about cops detaining people. Shooting them would be illegal. If you doubt that go ask a lawyer before buying a gun.
You're 100% correct, but when the new way of doing things is to deny you your right to due process, then you will never get that day in front of a judge to argue that you were detained illegally. We have a police state that is kidnapping people and shipping them off to another country without their day in court, possibly in a prison for the rest of their lives. I would argue that the threat of that is no different than the cops threatening to shoot them; either way, they're dead with no hope for justice. At least getting shot would be a relatively quick way to go.
If the secret police break down my door to kidnap me, somebody will be dying that day, and it'll almost certainly be me, but hopefully also a couple of them as well. If I can't save myself, I'd like to at least help to reduce the number of kidnappers, and hopefully deter others from carrying out their fuhrer's orders for fear that it could happen to them too.
I think that the country is now at the point where it wouldn't take much of a spark to blow the doors off this bitch. Of course the Epstein files thing matters, but it's really heartbreaking that that's what's galvanizing the masses instead of when he started literally disappearing people to concentration camps.