MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.
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Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
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Tbh, dbzer0 was always kind of sus to me
Same, it always felt off to me. Maybe it's the tankies from the triad that were block and couldn't get their propaganda out so they are hiding behind a non tankie isntance
Not sure if this has changed, but them being firm about not defederating hexbear was a huge 🚩, I have no idea if they are tankies or faking the anarchists thing, but I knew I had to instance jump.
It's "anarchist" which more often than not means they've never thought about their political positions beyond the very surface level because if they did they'd realize it doesn't make any sense. Ask a group of anarchists how large scale infrastructure would be built or how societal conflicts would be resolved in their utopia and watch how their ideology completely falls apart.
Yes, yes it's the anarchists that haven't given any thought to their political beliefs. Not like the super smart Giga Chad Galaxy brained geniuses. That keep making overcomplicated centralized unanswerable structures of power. And then shrugging confused every time it turns against them. Because as we all know doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome is brilliance.
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It sounds like you think Anarchism is the lack of a government. It isn't. It's the lack of hierarchy. Government is still possible, and arguably required.
I don't think it's Anarchists who don't know what they're talking about.
Anarchism is much more nuanced that that.
Well yes of course, because "anarchism" is a very broad term that covers a lot of different ideologies. Two persons that both might say they are "anarchists" could disagree on a whole lot.
Maybe you should think a bit more complexly about what anarchism is (though I'm not trying to excuse any bad behaving instances out there).
Every ideology exists on some kind of spectrum. As far as I can tell, pure capitalism, pure communism, and pure anarchism all bring significant problems when you try to apply them that are unique to their own strengths and weaknesses. You have to work things out and use common sense. But, talking about political philosophy and trying new principles for governance can still be a good thing, even if the as-described form is often a failure if people try to apply it in a way that is "pure" ideologically.
But if anybody on DB0 ever speaks ill of Tankies and China they get fucking ratio'd, how weird is that?