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Proton Launches Private AI Chatbox Called Lumo (proton.me)
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They also announced that their servers are moving outside out of Switzerland due to concerns with the new surveillance proposals.

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[โ€“] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Kind of light on details. "Lumo is based upon open-source language models". Okay. Which ones? [Edit: they offer more details at https://proton.me/support/lumo-privacy : "The models weโ€™re using currently are Nemo, OpenHands 32B, OLMO 2 32B, and Mistral Small 3"]

Not sure how I feel about this. I figured Proton would find some clever way to run models on encrypted data, or at least do something akin to Apple's "private cloud compute" but...nope, just another cloud platform like any other. Zero-logging is all fine and good, but don't pretend like you can't access my chats when the only thing stopping you is your logging policy.

Web search โ€” If you ask it to, Lumo can search the web for new or recent information to complement its existing knowledge.

Again, no details. So you're not sharing my data, but you are potentially leaking it to unnamed search engines? Cool, cool.

Oh, and it has built in Proton Docs integration, in case you wanted to accidentally send your documents, unencrypted, through Proton's servers. And also maybe leak their contents to a third-party search engine, who knows?

Please, Proton. E2EE or GTFO. The world doesn't need another chatbot. If you can't do it right, just don't do it.

[โ€“] vatlark@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Lumo itself claims to be based on Mistral's Large model, which is not open weight.

https://lemmy.world/comment/18393337

https://docs.mistral.ai/getting-started/models/models_overview/

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