Classic forums still exist.

Voting does allow the cream to rise to the top, which is why reddit was much better than a forum.

Honestly, I think part of the problem is that companies don't have an incentive to fight bots or spam: higher numbers of users and engagement make them look better to investors and advertisers.

I don't think it's that difficult of a problem to solve. It should be quite possible to detect patterns between real users and bots.

We will see how the fediverse handles it.

I like upvotes, otherwise I’d have stayed on forums. It’s also one of the only ethical algorithmic sorting methods as long as you can whitelist your members.

Ironically, I agree and upvoted this.

I ironically up vote this also. Agreed to no upvote and downvot.

Lets cut the sorting to chronological order. With options to arrange to new or old only.

I’ve always wondered if it would help to have to reply in order to give an up/downvote but I assume it would likely just result in more spam. Still, I hope people are thinking of new ways to try things