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"What did students do before chatgpt?" (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 91 points 2 months ago (6 children)

We haven't had LLMs that long. Are people seriously already forgetting the concept of learning skills?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 66 points 2 months ago

Nah, people have been cheating and faking it forever.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It makes the dumb even dumber. In 10 years we will see the effect of it, just like ipad babies.

[–] khornechips@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hate to be that guy, but you’re looking for effect here. You’re describing the effect (end result) of a change, not the affect (change) itself.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Haha yes, was typing too quickly.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 months ago

In the U.S., the issue is that our education system is already fundamentally broken and doing a terrible job of teaching kids. Adding LLMs to that is like striking a match in the tinderbox.

[–] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I teach collegiate intro programming classes, I can say it definitely seems that way. My office hours will be an absolute ghost town, nobody has any questions for me in class, and then when a project is due about 1/3 of the submissions are AI slop.

I know cheating has always been rampant, but I've never seen it this bad before.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you allowed to fail them? Everything I've heard about primary and secondary school in the US is that teachers can no longer punish or fail to pass students who are cheating or failing or have major disciplinary problems. I hope that it's different after high school.

[–] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was told specifically to give them a second chance at the assignment for 50% credit. No disciplinary action was taken on the part of the administration with the justification that "if they really don't know the material they'll fail the final."

So no, it's just as bad in higher education here.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

The future looks bright.

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 11 points 2 months ago

at least it took a bit more effort than just a prompt or two.

lucky if your search terms just bring up someone else's work I suppose lol

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago

Since computers became common, it's seemed like an increasing number of people don't know how to, and don't think they should have to, learn skills.