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https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/07/20/opinion-broadway-upzoning-parking-chicago/

"If the city becomes more dense, where will people put their car?!!" he asks.

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[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Uh transit is not optional unless you want to revert to company towns. And you're just moving people from private transit dependence to public transit dependence. Think about that for a second. Your asking people to give up their private and personal nearly unrestricted transit access and become wholly dependant on public infrastructure and governing bodies. How many people here trust and support their local governments right now. Especially enough to become trapped to "how far can you walk in 100+ weather"

[–] grue@lemmy.world -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Uh transit is not optional unless you want to revert to company towns.

What are you even talking about? If you don't have public transit in a densely-built area, you can just fucking walk! Or bike, for that matter. Well-designed cities are compact enough that you can get anywhere you need to go even without transit. Transit is just an extra layer on top, so that you can more easily choose to be picky about going to store B across town instead of walking to store A in your neighborhood, but you don't need to choose store B over store A. (And even then, in a well-designed city even store B is reasonable to get to at least by bike, if not on foot.)

I have absolutely no idea what point you think you're making about "company towns" and "private transit."

Think about that for a second. Your asking people to give up their private and personal nearly unrestricted transit access and become wholly dependant on public infrastructure and governing bodies.

Streets are public infrastructure. You're already dependent on it, even if you're driving a car.

Especially enough to become trapped to “how far can you walk in 100+ weather”

The answer to that question is "plenty far enough, in a well-designed city." And the "in 100+ weather" part is just strawmanning, BTW -- even with global warming, it's the exception, not the rule.