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man, they must be paying good for this propaganda

in other news, i finally got banned from that shithole, i guess i supported ukraine too much

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I mean yeah, the fact that women and children die in war doesn't automatically make it a genocide.

Intensionally killing women and children, kidnapping children and destroying cultural sites for the express purpose of replacing the people and culture with your own? Yeah, that makes it a genocide, three times over.

And note how it the definition of genocide doesn't include or exclude any specific countries? Yeah that's on purpose

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's what I was thinking.

I'd also like to add it can be a "war crime" and a horrible monster thing being done and still not be a genocide.

To repeat "not a genocide" doesn't mean it's "fine and okay"

I'm just saying it's a very specific term.

If an army js purposefully killing children just to be mean and terrible... That's awful and should be punished ... But that's also not a genocide. It's a genocide if the goal and purpose is to eliminate the culture or people from existence.

A good example is the American slave trade. Obviously terrible and unforgivable but not a genocide. What we did to native Americans was a genocide.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget the Russian politicians constantly stating that they seek to eliminate the entire idea of Ukrainian identity because they aren't appreciative enough of the motherland to deserve their own identity.

[–] KmlSlmk64@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

While the original definitions of genocide were explicitly based on what soviets did in Ukranie...