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Whether or not if you can garden to survive and if makes you a good person or not (You literally can't, and it no, doesn't) is not on debate here, we're talking about eating at restaurants or getting take-out.
The best incentive here is that you can save a lot of money and force unethical businesses to change their models and pay-gaps by learning to cook at home. There are a million tools and resources for learning how. Once you break the habit it stops feeling like mental and physical effort to have your own meal plans.
Seen it done over decades. Works, though there were tilapia and rabbits. This was not just 'put stuff in ground and snack'. Dude had some org chem under his belt. Also it was a family of three.
I do in fact cook at home. The exploitation at the supermarket is gross; I'm not going out before noon for a farmers market. And every ingredient tastes a little like the suffering of which it is made. Especially the leafy greens.
Your entire life is built on a 4-billion-year chain of death and suffering. You wouldn't exist in a modern world with antibiotics and childcare and plumbing if not for the exploitation and suffering of countless people.
This is just a conflict you have to figure out. You can be a person with values and ethics and still exist as a product of suffering. If you just can't make that work, be an advocate for better practices, alternatively go live like the person in your story and just revert to subsistence farming with the land you surely have and the vast amount of knowledge how to spend every waking moment turning dirt to food. Nobody will give you a medal or care about your suffering though.
Thats a shitty imperialist view of the natural world. Yeah, it's red in tooth and claw, but also cuddly and collaborative and incomprehensible. We are not morally superior by virtue of wearing pants.
I know he once had me set up a dozen beefy computers with solidworks in an office. I don't think he was a subsistence farmer. I think he was like a subcontractor for lockheed or raytheon or something. Definitely had 'my job requires both security clearance and an advanced degree' vibes. It's a thing. They talk about the topic generally, like going on (hypothetical example) an impromptu hour long explanation of different backflow valves, but never talks about the one's they've worked on.
Yeah maybe, but the difference in exploitation here is negligable. Splitting hairs, getting out my microscope to figure out which is more exploitative does not seem worth my time or attention. Besides; I'm not trying to be a good person here.