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[–] Redredme@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Bro was realistic.

Do you keep a client list of your parties? Do you keep a diary of your illegal activities? Would you allow someone else to have that?!

And even if such a thing would exist, is there any reason to keep such a list after the party? After the planning? After the rich and famous left? No man, the only thing that remains are photos, memories and crazy stories.

Sure, there are people who went there. Sure, there was crazy, scary stuff going on at those parties.

Which is exactly the reason why such a list doesn't exist.

It was another maga bullshit conspiracy story which backfired spectaculary.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Except when you run a blackmail operation of course you will compile all the information of all the people, so you can blackmail them with it.

If it was only about abusing children, Epstein could have done that with relatively little attention. Instead he made sure to have as many people involved as possible.

There is credible reasons to believe that Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell have been instructed by Mossad, as they have extensive ties to Mossad and Israel, in particular through the father of Ghislaine Maxwell, Robert, who Epstein apparently helped stow away stolen money. Also Robert "fell of his Yacht" when it became known that he was a Mossad asset.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Alleged_connections_to_intelligence_agencies

Epstein was rumored to be associated with Intelligence agencies.[292] The U.S. journalists Dylan Howard, Melissa Cronin and James Robertson linked Epstein to the Israeli Mossad in their book Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales. They relied for the most part on the former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe.[293] According to him, Epstein's activities as a spy served to gather compromising material on powerful people in order to blackmail them.[294] There is also a possible connection to the Mossad via Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father Robert Maxwell is said to have had contacts with the Mossad.[295] Epstein's victim Virginia Giuffre also alleged Epstein to be an intelligence asset, linking on Twitter to a Reddit page, that alleged Epstein was a spy, running a blackmail operation.[296]

As U.S. Attorney in Florida, the later U.S. Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta reached a settlement with Epstein's lawyers (including Alan M. Dershowitz) in 2008, which allowed him to receive a very light prison sentence. Acosta later reportedly stated that he was told that Epstein "belonged to intelligence" and that the issue was above his "pay grade." According to Acosta, he was pushed to give him a good deal.[297] Former CIA Director and diplomat William J. Burns met with Epstein three times. According to a CIA spokesperson, Burns hoped that Epstein would help him "transition to the private sector."[298]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#Mossad_allegations;_Vanunu_case

The Foreign Office suspected Maxwell of being a secret agent of a foreign government, possibly a double agent or a triple agent, and "a thoroughly bad character and almost certainly financed by Russia". He had known links to the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), to the Soviet KGB, and to the Israeli intelligence service Mossad.[58]

Shortly before Maxwell's death, Ari Ben-Menashe, a former employee of Israel's Military Intelligence Directorate, approached a number of news organisations in Britain and the US with the allegation that Maxwell and the Daily Mirror's foreign editor, Nicholas Davies, were both long-time agents for Mossad. Ben-Menashe also claimed that, in 1986, Maxwell informed the Israeli Embassy in London that Mordechai Vanunu revealed information about Israel's nuclear capability to The Sunday Times, then to the Daily Mirror. Vanunu was subsequently kidnapped by Mossad and smuggled to Israel, convicted of treason and imprisoned for eighteen years.[59]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#Death

Murder was ruled out by the judge and, in effect, so was suicide.[65] His son discounted the possibility of suicide, saying, "I think it is highly unlikely that he would have taken his own life, it wasn't in his makeup or his mentality."[10] Maxwell was afforded a lavish funeral in Israel, attended by Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, Israeli President Chaim Herzog, at least six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence[67] and many dignitaries and politicians, both government and opposition, and was buried on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem.[68][69] Herzog delivered the eulogy, and the Kaddish was recited by his fellow Holocaust survivor, friend and longtime attorney Samuel Pisar.[70]

Also note how the recent denials from Israel are extremely agressive https://time.com/7302177/epstein-mossad-israel-intelligence-naftali-bennett/:

The Israeli politician on Monday said he had “100% certainty” that Epstein did not have any ties to the Mossad, Israel’s foreign intelligence agency, or the country itself.

“The accusation that Jeffrey Epstein somehow worked for Israel or the Mossad running a blackmail ring is categorically and totally false,” Bennett said in a post on X. “There’s a vicious wave of slander and lies against my country and my people, and we just won’t take it anymore.”

EDIT: Also note that Israel is notorious for harboring fugitive child abusers. Israel is strategically building on child rapists to support them.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-07-25/ty-article/.premium/tip-of-the-iceberg-how-foreign-sex-offenders-find-refuge-in-israel/00000182-3532-d7e9-af96-3d73c52c0000

[–] Redredme@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If all this is true that are even more reasons such a list does not exist. (anymore)

Or do you really think an agency like the Mossad is that careless?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 5 days ago

There isn't some "list" written on paper of which only a single document exists. There however is a lot of evidence of who was involved, of which the FBI seems to have an overview and can say who they have evidence for.

These kind of informations can be digital, copied, stored away in hidden places. They can be on some encrypted drive on some server...

After Epstein was found dead, with a rather dubios claim of suicide, dont you think that Maxwell had all the reason to create some "dead mans trigger" file, so she doesnt face the same fate as Epstein?

We also have earlier claims of the FBI that they know people that were involved. We had the FBI report speak of "thousands" of victims. You think if they know a lot of victims they wouldnt have any testimony linking back to some of the people involved?

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Epstein seems to have kept photos and videos of his clients to blackmail them. It would be easy to create a list of his "clients" and the government certainly has created such a list, to charge them or at least they should have it or be able to do so easily.

[–] Redredme@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Look, believe what you want to believe. At this time there is zero proof. Only words as "seems" "we believe" "should".

In absence of any proof I suggest (as does King) that it's very plausible that this criminal, as every other criminal ever (except serial killers) did not keep evidence of his criminal activities. For me thats a "duh".

(And if all this foreign agent stuff is even just somewhat true than that list does exist but it will never ever see the light of day because in the hands of an agency such as Mossad, cia or whatever it's a very, maybe even the most valuable tool. Which, to us mere mortals, has the same net outcome. No list.)

Maga screamed murder, as it always does, about absolute bullshit. Clinton and every democrat ever was on the list! And now it comes back and bites them in the ass. As it fucking should.

There was a list according to them when it furthered their political interest. And then: Goal achieved, Trump voted Prez. And lo and behold: no more list! Omg! Impossible! I never expected that? Right? /S.