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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Explanation: The ultraconservative Senator Cato the Younger, an enemy of Julius Caesar (of conqueror and dictator fame, though at this time he was neither, just a reformist politician of moderate importance and infinite ambition), once saw Caesar receive a note during a tense time in the Senate, when the Catiline Conspiracy was ongoing. Caesar had a tendency to read in silence (ie in his head) which was unusual in Roman society, being seen as furtive and secretive. Cato, seeing a chance to attack his longtime foe, accused Caesar of being with the conspirators, as evidenced by the note he received!

Wordlessly, Caesar gave him the note. Triumphantly, Cato began to read the note to the Senate, until he realized it was a love letter from his sister to Caesar. Humiliated and frustrated in his aim, Cato threw the note back at Caesar and called Caesar a drunk - especially funny since even Cato's defenders noted he was a heavy drinker, and even Caesar's enemies admitted he was not much for boozing.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Caesar had a tendency to read in silence (ie in his head) which was unusual in Roman society, being seen as furtive and secretive.

Now that's fascinating, I'd never heard that. I suppose it might have derived from earlier times, when the nobility wasn't necessarily literate itself (and so would have a scribe reading aloud)?

Anyway, the chicks sure loved that combover. (Or maybe it was the insane wealth)

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Now that’s fascinating, I’d never heard that. I suppose it might have derived from earlier times, when the nobility wasn’t necessarily literate itself (and so would have a scribe reading aloud)?

Not sure about the exact origin of it, but apparently it influences the composition of Roman prose. It's meant to be read aloud, and the cadence of the original Latin is made for it. Literacy was expected of the elite at least since the early Republic, so the tradition would have to pre-date the Republic entirely.

The Romans were an extremely non-private culture, so it may just be an outgrowth of that.

Anyway, the chicks sure loved that combover. (Or maybe it was the insane wealth)

Caesar was a major slut before he became fabulously wealthy (or bald, for that matter), so I guess that gilded tongue had uses outside of the political arena 😏

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Caesar was a major slut before he became fabulously wealthy (or bald, for that matter), so I guess that gilded tongue had uses outside of the political arena 😏

Sadly unlikely. Cunnilingus was seen as degrading for the man.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

So was bottoming, but we all know Caesar was the Queen of Bithynia!