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[–] NotMushroomForDebate@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think I read this sentiment before somewhere. May I ask why?

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Because I want more organizing and activism.

I don't want people who have never organized or done activism or built anything.

I don't want just commentary.

[–] Onewhoexists@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We can! I just think we have too much of one.

[–] Onewhoexists@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. Organising in the real world, and spreading class consciousness are less than mutually exclusive; they complement each other.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Onewhoexists@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you see ML podcasts as a way of spreading class consciousness?

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think they're one way, but they're overused; we have so many at this point and they sometimes just repeat themselves.

I just want better quality, I guess.

[–] Onewhoexists@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I suppose it depends on who the podcast is for: if it’s to dispel western capitalist propaganda about socialist countries, (i.e, @millennialchaos’ Radio Free America; which dispels propaganda against People’s Korea) who’s target audience are liberals in the Imperial Core; repetition of certain points is helpful to bring a point across to as many people as possible. When it comes to ML podcasters, the more people influenced by them, the better.

In short; you, as an ML; probably aren’t the target audience for the podcasts you are referring to.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even so, I don't like podcasters and other influencers generally. The drama they get into and gatekeeping is done.

I also find that they oversimplify things.

[–] Onewhoexists@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough. Still, it couldn’t hurt to have more of them; or the existing ones gaining more popularity; in my opinion. There are pros and cons to any format of agitation; podcasters and influencers are 1) more modern, and 2) More effective when it comes to radicalising the younger generation, in particular. They just aren’t for everyone, and that’s okay.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

I agree, I just feel that there's a dearth of activism and organizing, that's all

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agitation is the foundation of organization. There are plenty of leftist organizing things but they get co-opted by the liberals because the class consciousness isn't there. With sufficient class consciousness in a population you can't stop organization. It will happen nearly of its own accord.

Maybe the next revolutionary leftist podcast will be the one that breaks out of leftist circles and starts killing liberalism.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I doubt that it will happen with a podcast; we need to meet people in real life, not just through podcasts that sometimes preach to the choir.

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lenin didn't spend half a book talking about the necessity of founding newspapers because he never considered talking to people in real life. You will never be able to have a one hour political conversation with 10,000 people. A small podcast does that every week. Podcasts are the pamphlets and newspapers of the 21 century. If the podcasts aren't reaching the right people we need more of them not less.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 2 months ago
[–] ZEDtheRED@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Amen. I stopped listening to podcasts and started listening to the people. I walk around the homeless camp giving out food and clothes and listening to them. We greet one another on the street with dignity and a sense of community. Boots on the ground is the only way forward here. Spread love, food, seeds, clothing, music, information, make community and make it TIGHT. I know all the clerks in my 'hood. I have their phone numbers. I watch their stores for them at night and they help me out when I am desperate.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

That's what's up!