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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 4 days ago (11 children)

It at least feels, to significant numbers of people, that atomisation has significantly increased in the couple decades since 2005.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the internet is responsible for most of this

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

I'd have to agree. The internet combined with the capitalist model, anyway. Bourgeois control and mindless pursuit of profit, regardless of the not-directly-monetary benefits of previous methods, was an essential element.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

How do we fix it? I seriously think this will remain a problem in a socialist world. What do we do to mitigate atomisation created by people sitting at home on the internet during all the free time they have in-between going to work?

I don't think it's just capitalism at fault here. The internet existing at all will still play this role of removing people's need to go anywhere for social activity. The internet has essentially replaced all social activity people were seeking outside or with meeting up with friends previously.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago

I thought about this, and my conclusion is that personal computing itself has to be completely overhauled. Personal computing started out as a petty bourgeois hobby. Your average prole wasn't fucking around with mainframes or PCs during the 70s and 80s. The closest thing to a computer that an actual member of the working class interacted with were arcades in third places.

My sketch of what needs to happen:

  1. Computing goes back to the mainframe-client model. The mainframe would be various servers set up to service a particular physical community (town, suburb, city) and the client is a smartphone.

  2. The community-issued smartphones are all connected to a community intranet that's handled by those servers and only connected to the community intranet, with exception being its basic functionality as a phone.

  3. Average people are restricted or banned from almost all other computing devices and peripherals (consoles, PCs, printers, smart devices). Exceptions would be something like a software dev being loaned a laptop to hone on their coding skills or disabled people getting smart devices to help with their disability.

  4. "Classic" computing devices will all be stored and maintained within a community center, perhaps in the same place as the community servers. So, people can still play videogames or do film editing, but instead of doing it at home, they would do it all in a third space. Convenience is sacrificed for the sake of deatomization.

  5. The "classic" computing devices will be maintained by hobbyists and professionals. So, instead of building an individual gaming PC for their own individual use, the PC gamer would be in charge of building multiple gaming PCs. This has an added advantage of training people.

  6. The computers within the community center has access to the internet instead of just the community intranet. This is where "classic" social media could still exist.

This sketch isn't perfect (it doesn't have a good answer for privacy concerns), but the current status quo has got to go.

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